More About Isabel Paige And My Disappointment

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Very early yesterday morning I wrote a blog post article about a 23 year old young woman named Isabel Paige.  I had watched a couple of her videos and thought that she was interesting enough and attractive enough to write about.  I intended to find out more about her.

Later yesterday evening I was able to find Isabel’s last name, but very little additional information came up for her, which was not too surprising because she is only 23 years old.  When I did a search using Isabel’s father’s name, this eventually led to a kind of unraveling of Isabel’s story about what she was doing.

Isabel’s mother and father live in Seattle, Washington.  When Isabel was talking in her videos about living and working in Seattle, and returning to live on her family’s “farm”, I was mistaken, and so were many of her viewers.  We thought that she had been working and living by herself in Seattle, far away from her home and family, but that was not the case, her family has a home in Seattle.

Isabel’s father’s name was linked to a street address in eastern Washington state on the outskirts of a National Forest.  Using Google Earth Satellite View of this street address revealed that this was the property shown in many of Isabel’s videos, that she was referring to as her family’s “farm”.

The “family farm” that Isabel was talking about returning to in her videos, is not really a farm, because there isn’t any livestock such as horses, cattle, pigs, sheep, goats, or chickens, nor is there any corral, barn, tractor, large farm field, or crop.  There is a large garden that is maybe 1/2 acre in size.  The property is a vacation home that was recently built or purchased by her mother and father.

I feel that I was somewhat duped or misled.  From what Isabel was saying, she was talking about trying to live as a farmer, to be self-sufficient, and to live off-grid.  A more accurate description of the situation, is that Isabel and her sister Natasha are staying in their parent’s vacation home.

When I read the comments to some of Isabel’s videos, some of the commentors were being very critical, saying that Isabel was just staying in her parent’s vacation home, or asking her to show video of the “farm”, or asking her what she was going to do in the winter.  At first I didn’t understand these comments, but now I do.

I don’t think that anyone can live in this vacation home during the winter, for several different reasons.  From the Google Earth Satellite View, there is a one-lane, dead-end dirt road that goes about one mile from the nearest house back to Isabel’s house.  This one-lane dirt road is terraced into a very steep mountainside that is going to shed or avalanche snow onto this road November through March.

More than a mile from Isabel’s house, there is a one-lane wooden bridge over a river that provides access to Isabel’s house and three other houses.  I don’t think that this wooden bridge is rated to carry heavy county road crew snow removal equipment that would be needed to efficiently plow more than one mile of road.  I don’t think that the county crosses over this one-lane wooden bridge to clear the snow for access to these four houses on the far side of the river.

If you could find a private heavy equipment operator to drive a front end loader across the one-lane wooden bridge and clear more than one mile of snow off the road, it would take at least half a day and cost about $1,000 each time.

For the past eighteen years I have lived in heavy snow fall areas of northern Arizona, Idaho, and North Dakota.  In the winter, many National Forest and National Park roads are closed off because they can not keep up with the snow removal.  Bottoms of canyons with vacation homes become inaccessible for large amounts of time in the winter because of snow accumulation.

You can’t live in a mountainous area of Washington at the bottom of a canyon on the limited access side of the river, and expect to be able to make it to a job or a grocery store every day during the winter.  There will be times in the winter when you couldn’t drive out of the far side of the canyon for weeks in a row.

I am not so angry that Isabel gave me and the other viewers the idea that she was going to live and work on her family’s farm, when it isn’t a farm, and she isn’t working on a farm, as I am irritated that Isabel doesn’t really have a viable realistic plan on how she is going to survive this winter.

I imagine that Isabel’s parents haven’t flat out told her “no” that she can’t live at that house in the winter, because this appears to still be her plan.  Maybe her parents are thinking that she will see this for herself in November or December and get out of there before she becomes stuck and has to be rescued.

Here is a video showing Isabel with her family, which will give a little more insight into the situation:

Update 1/25/2021:

In the above blog post article, and in the comments below, I have tried to explain that I do not like, and believe that it is harmful, to lead YouTube viewers to believe that you can save money for one year at a low-paying job, quit your job, go buy some land in the mountains, build a tiny-house, and play in the woods most of the day.

Many of the commentors claim that I am just a jealous old man, what I say is not true, not accurate, not valid, and my points are baseless. I have decided to include a YouTube video made by a young woman, who on her own without reading my blog post article, came to many of the same conclusions as I did:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=m9h-33J6gC0

Update 4/5/21:

On 4/3/21 Isabel Paige uploaded a YouTube video titled something like “Finishing My Tiny-House”. About halfway through this video Isabel and her father were laughing about some people who had driven down the road to Isabel’s house recently, saying that they were trying to find someone who was selling eggs, and then they said, “You’re Isabel Paige, aren’t you? I watch your YouTube videos.”

Isabel and her father were laughing about how no one ever drives down the dead-end dirt road to their house, that this has never happened before, and what a coincidence it was that they watch Isabel’s YouTube videos. This was no coincidence. These people saying that they were “trying to find someone who was selling eggs”, may have been an inside joke reference to Isabel’s friend and YouTuber Hannah Lee Duggan who sells her eggs to in vitro fertilization clinics for $10K to make money.

Isabel and her father need to stop and think about these things:

  • Isabel lives in a very remote, mountainous, and sparsely populated area on the border of a National Forest where real estate is very expensive. There are very few working farms in this area, especially NOT chicken farms.  Is there anyone they have ever heard of who sells chicken eggs in their area?
  • Considering that very few people live in the remote, mountainous, and sparsely populated area where Isabel lives, does it make any sense that anyone would drive that far just to buy chicken eggs when they could buy them much more easily in town?
  • Eggs cost about $1.50 per dozen in the grocery store, and there is no shortage of chicken eggs in grocery stores.  To get to Isabel’s house from town would cost about $10 in gas round trip, and take more than an hour.  Who is going to drive more than an hour and spend $10 in gas to buy eggs that normally cost $1.50 per dozen in stores?

If you read the comments to this particular YouTube video of Isabel’s, about 30% of the viewers are saying, “Watch out for that egg guy!  That’s no coincidence!  You’re lucky your father happened to be there!”  These people are correct.

In the comments section of this blog post article about Isabel, myself and other people wrote that it was not that difficult to find where Isabel is located, that she should be more careful, that it is not a good idea for her to walk alone in the woods without a firearm, and that it is not a good idea to show herself bathing naked in the river beside her house and other forest locations.

I hope that Isabel and her family will think about this and take this as a Wake-Up Call.  I hope that Isabel’s viewers will continue to urge Isabel to be more careful.  I believe that if Isabel’s father had not been there, and the people that drove up to Isabel were able to determine that she was alone, they might have stayed much longer just to be a nuisance, or they might have harmed her.

I am writing this Update in order to give this warning and offer some advice:

  • Isabel made a couple of mistakes in talking about how she has no cell-phone signal, that she has begun walking to the top of the mountain every morning, and that she is not in-touch with her family and friends every day.  Giving details like this have made her more vulnerable.
  • As one of her women viewers pointed out in the comments, when Isabel is bathing naked or nearly naked in forest locations, her screaming and yelling is announcing her location and drawing people to her that otherwise might not have known that she was there.
  • Isabel’s family needs to put a gate with a lock, or a chain with a lock across the beginning of their one-lane, dead-end dirt road that goes to their house, with a couple of very visible “No Trespassing” signs.  Once someone goes beyond a “No Trespassing” sign, they can be arrested for trespassing, which is not the case if there is no sign.
  • At the gate across the road, or the chain across the road, there needs to be one or two pole-mounted or tree-mounted wireless or cable-fed surveillance cameras that can clearly be seen.  This is a deterrent.  This can also give people at the house a view of what is happening at the gate.  Some wireless cameras have a cell-phone application to allow you to watch them remotely.
  • I recommend the use of multiple trail cameras, hidden at the perimeter of the property on each side, including the river side.  This may point out some very determined and stealthy voyeurs.
  • I recommend installing as many as six solar-charged, motion-activated flood lights on trees, poles, or structures.  These very bright flood lights coming on at night can alert you that someone is at a specific location on your property.  People who are trying to sneak around unnoticed do not like getting lit-up by flood lights every time they move.
  • For this property, I recommend about six wireless motion-detectors positioned about one hundred feet from Isabel’s house, programmed to six different channels on a receiver box indicating which zone alarmed.  It’s O.K. that deer and other animals set them off, it shows that the motion detectors are working.
  • I recommend getting a dog of a working-dog breed, such as a German Shepherd.  Because of the very cold winter climate in the mountains of Washington state, a short-haired dog like a Doberman or Rottweiler would suffer in the winter cold.  Look up “Livestock Guardian Dogs” or “LGD”, these are very large dogs that are accustomed to living outdoors all year long guarding livestock from predators as large as mountain lions and bears.
  • Lastly and Most Importantly, Isabel needs to carry a firearm with her at all times on the property and learn how to use it.  A firearm will do her no good if it is unloaded, left in a closet, or she doesn’t know how to use it.

Carrying a firearm is the most important thing.  Law Enforcement would take at least 30 minutes to reach this property, that is if the cell-phone call went through.  Cameras are a deterrent, but they won’t stop something from happening.  A dog can be poisoned, lured away, or shot. 

Because Isabel and her family appear to be averse to firearms, I would recommend purchasing the most reliable, durable, easy to use, lightweight, least expensive to obtain and shoot firearm, the Ruger 10-22 rifle.  You can buy a Ruger 10-22 at Walmart for about $300, just about any sporting goods store, and most gun stores.  .22 LR long rifle bullets cost about 5 cents each, and they are one of the most quiet and least recoil rounds.  This rifle would be the easiest for each of the family members to practice with and get accustomed to.

368 thoughts on “More About Isabel Paige And My Disappointment”

    1. Linny,

      Yes, I agree with you for several reasons: 1)How many times can you video yourself making coffee, chopping vegetables, running & screaming in a field? 2) Living in a tiny-house with no instant-flush toilet, hot water shower, clothes washer & dryer gets old. 3) Farming is very hard work, subsistence farming is very hard work and there is no money in it, it’s below poverty level. 4) There’s not her type of guy that wants to come live in a tiny-house on a subsistence farm making no money and living at the poverty level.

      Have you ever seen a Dad build a play house in the backyard for an elementary school aged daughter? This has been practically the same thing only this tiny play house cost about $20K and his daughter was 23 years old, and now she has outgrown it.

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      2. ” There’s not her type of guy that wants to come live in a tiny-house…”
        So who is this guy in today’s video “Can 2 People Live In A Tiny House” ?

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      3. In reply to John Doe,

        It will be interesting to see how this turns out. One person living in very small space with no running water can decide when they need to go up to their parents’ house to use their shower with hot running water, or when they feel well enough to go bathe in the cold creek water, if they need to go somewhere or expect to have visitors and they want to be clean, presentable, and not smell bad. When you ad a second person, an intimate partner, to a small living space with no running water, I wonder how quickly the romance is lost, the attraction is lost.

        A former room mate and friend of mine who was Jewish and in his late 50s, to my surprise and his surprise got himself a very beautiful, fit Jewish girlfriend who was at least ten years younger than him. He had a small pop-up trailer camper that he used to make a two-week long trip in Arizona each Fall. His girlfriend insisted that she wanted to go with him. He explained to her that there were no showers or toilets where he was going. She still wanted to go. When he got out a five gallon bucket and shit in it, that was the immediate end to their relationship.

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    3. I think regardless of how she lives the videos are wonderful. Real or fiction. It is like watching a tv series. People are jealous and only wish the could live free, in a beautiful landscape with little to no responsibility. Those folks jealous need to get a life. Watch something else. Leave thy young lady alone…ya bunch of bullying jerks.

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      1. CJ,

        If watching Isabel Paige is like watching a TV series, this TV series is fixin to get cancelled because many of the viewers and the actors themselves are getting bored, and the plot has headed things to an inevitable dead-end. How many more times do people want to watch Isabel making coffee or screaming running across a field?

        Farming is dirty, hard, daily work, and you can’t take a bunch of time off from it and expect to have a good harvest. I don’t think that Isabel is going to stick around the property all day this Spring and Summer doing farming, which will prove her wrong about what she said she was going to do. I think that she is going to begin taking all kinds of trips, because the farm is too boring for her.

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    4. There is no way all these videos are done by the two girls. Seriously suspect professional videographers are involved and being bankrolled by parents or someone.

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      1. In reply to C.S.,

        It appears that lately Isabel Paige and Hannah Lee Duggan are each uploading one YouTube video per week. If you consider that neither Isabel or Hannah have a regular job to go to, and their life for several days can focus on one task such as making a shelf, they can spend hours each day video recording all the steps that go into making a shelf. So this does not impress me or surprise me, that they have plenty of time to video and edit.

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      3. I saw on youtube yesterday where they said that Isabel Paige earns close to $200,000 a year for her videos.

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  2. I’m 40 with children and have watched her (Isabel) channel. She seems fake. She makes it appear like she is living in the wilderness of Colorado or Canada. Eventually she will get bored with the same scenery everyday. I think she does it for views/ YouTube income. Her Patreon almost seems obsurd. Like depending on the amount of money you donate you will get different things from me.

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    1. Lesley,

      I think that Isabel began feeling bored with what she is doing this January/February of 2021 when she left Washington state to fly to Tennessee to visit her boyfriend, then travel with Hannah Lee Duggan in her van through South Carolina, Georgia, and Florida. Living in a tiny-house in the mountains without having a job or a job to go to every day is probably lonely and boring for a young person, unless you are truly a hermit and recluse who dislikes people.

      All the more reason why Isabel’s YouTube videos are harmful to young people who are trying to figure things out. In Isabel’s earlier YouTube videos, (these videos go back a couple of years), Isabel was talking about living in a van in Hawaii, and I believe that she was working as a waitress. Then later I believe that she returned to Seattle and was working as a waitress. A year or so ago when Isabel was giving a summary of what she was doing, she explained that she had quit college after a semester or two, college wasn’t for her, and instead she traveled, did Yoga, went to someplace like India to further her Yoga studies, returned to Seattle and decided to go live on her family’s “Farm”, and lead a “sustainable lifestyle”.

      While Isabel was glamorizing and romanticizing “sustainable farming” and building then living in her tiny-house, giving young YouTube viewers the idea that this is a fun and exciting lifestyle, there wasn’t any actual farming going on at this time, there was no income generated from farming, there was no food produced on this farm to eat, the land was the vacation home property of her parents, she wasn’t paying for the land, and her father did most of the work in building her tiny-house.

      I would like to see young people getting on track to be able to support themselves well enough to have an enjoyable life. Completing college, completing vocational school, completing an apprenticeship, joining the military, working in a skilled trade are ways for young people to be able to earn enough money to support themselves well. Quitting college, working at low-paying jobs, quitting your job with the idea of living off-grid in a tiny-house is not actually going to be fun, it’s going to be poverty, almost dying, eventually pleading with other people for help, and relying on the charity of others.

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    2. That’s exactly how Patreon works, hers and everybody’s. Also it’s how your phone plan works, how Netflix works, how my gym pass works, or basically how any subscription-model business works. Depending on what you pay you get more stuff or less stuff. Pretty straight-forward, I don’t see how it’s absurd. I think you’re just looking for any reasons to hate on her.

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      1. In reply to HS,

        You may not have been watching Isabel Paige long enough, to have seen about one year ago where Isabel was showing in some of her videos her car problems with her older Toyota 4Runner, (after she had wrecked her better running other Toyota 4Runner), and some young woman in Florida set up a GoFundMe page for Isabel to raise money for car repairs. Isabel’s 100 IQ viewers did not know that Isabel and her mother, father, brother, and sister live in a $2 million home in Seattle, they paid $500K for this property in western Washington State, then another $100K to build a home on this property. The “absurd” thing that this commentor was referring to, was all of the people living paycheck-to-paycheck should donate to Isabel’s Patreon, when her Mom & Dad are multi-millionaires.

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  3. Many of these channels will probably follow a similar arc.
    The protagonist gets excited about a pipe dream. Works to realize it and then gets depressed, lonely and dreadfully bored. The videos during this time consist of more poetry and philosophical epiphanies reminiscent to anyone’s last year in high school, following their first heartbreak.
    A new dream emerges, which promises fields, strawberries, warmth, connections, and growth. The influencer now has themes of “acceptance, love, and tranquility.”
    Oh the joy of the viewer to watch a shelf being made. Oh the intrigue of another trip, another van, another boyfriend, another thing that fails to live up to its hype.
    Somehow it seems to start cute, with a dream and a camera, and end with a pattern of instability and some lingering questions about the youtuber’s mental health.
    We all start asking, doesn’t she know this won’t make her happy?
    Is she forcing the same shoot every week because of how many views the last one got?
    Then there will be some plug to their “anxiety” or “depression” and “mental health awareness.” Only to be back to another pipe dream tomorrow.

    Selling a lifestyle is incredibly damaging to the developing young adult mind.

    Which lifestyle do I sell? Am I a van person? Vegan? Poly? Poor? Who the hell am I?
    Am I even happy with what I’m selling?
    Imposter syndrome.
    Defeat and fear of letting the followers down.
    Fear of being found out as a fraud.

    Imagine being afraid of failing at a lifestyle you’ve been endorsing for your income as opposed to just living for your own sake.

    Having your name, your body become a brand. Having your pain and happiness become monetized.

    This is how celebrity-ism will ruin the psyches of the young and impressionable.

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    1. Lauren,

      I read this most recent comment of yours a couple of times, there were many thoughts to consider, you are correct about each of them, I hadn’t thought about all of these things.

      For the time being, I feel compelled to repeat again, that young people should not have the goal to live in a tiny-house or a van.

      (As an aside, has it come to the point in the U.S. that young people no longer want to become married, have 2-3 kids, live in a house with a white picket fence, and instead aim for living by themselves in a van because that’s about the most they could hope for? Unfortunately the answer is yes. I am not making fun of trailer parks, but in the South, middle, mid-west, and West couples both working full-time live in RV trailers and single-wide manufactured homes because they can’t afford the average $250K home.)

      Maybe I stumbled upon an answer, young people have such a bleak reality, no easy, worthwhile, or enjoyable way to get ahead and move forward, that in their numbness they turn to the unreality of video games, pornography, OnlyFans, American Idol, and YouTube personalities. I think about futuristic books and movies that predicted this, “Brave New World” where people had sex for recreation but no one had children anymore, hook-ups only, and drugs, no guilt. “1984” with no more books and history being overwritten, no Dr.Seus, no Pepe LePew, no Aunt Jemima, no Washington Redskins, no Fighting Sioux. “Fahrenheit 415” book burnings. The “Hunger Games” and “The Maze Runner” where children are taken away from their families by a totalitarian authoritarian non-democratic government because America no longer exists as it was created.

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  4. Hi again. I still occasionally watch her channel every few days. I would think she would go nuts living alone. But in all actuality she has her family close by of course and she’s near “town”.
    It’s such a facade.
    Is she bi-polar or any mental health associations along those lines?
    In one of her previous videos she shows how she sleeps on the floor on purpose….in her tiny home…there is now a fluffy bed with a lot of pillows.
    There are a lot of things in her videos that show she plays at life for now.

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    1. Lesley,

      To answer your question, “Is Isabel bi-polar?”, she possibly is. On camera, she has a lot of unusually “high” moments, according to her, being so in-love with life, being so happy just to be alive, being so happy just to see the sun rise, running & screaming just because she is outside in a field or on a mountain.

      Maybe Isabel’s mother and father are so tolerant of Isabel’s life choices is because they have seen her unable to cope and have a break down when expectations and demands are placed on her in situations like grade school, college, various jobs and work environments. Maybe her parents have learned or been instructed that if Isabel can find some things that she likes to do and enjoys doing, to just allow her to do that, because trying to get her to do something else that she doesn’t want to do or is anxious about, will just lead to severe problems.

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      2. In reply to HS,

        I appreciated Lesley’s comments and insights, because the more that other people point out the reality of living in a van, living in a tiny-house, not having a job, the better prepared young people will be to make informed decisions about what they want to do in life. I will point out again that not having any money and trying to build a tiny-house on a remote property where there will likely be no electricity, gas service, or indoor plumbing, this can not only be unpleasant and no fun, in the winter it can be life-threatening.

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    2. You really don’t get Yoga and being one with nature. I am a nurse and I can tell you she is not bipolar. What on earth is wrong with people wasting their time and energy to attack someone who brings joy to so many people. Her yoga videos are amazing and her cookbook I just got has some awesome recipes. What 20 something do you know who has done this much with their lives. Parents and students go into way more debt doing college for degrees they don’t do shit got them in career world. True happiness is living simply, being present in the moment which is what she is teaching. Lower life forms won’t understand what higher vibration human beings do. They can’t make sense of it in their shallow, empty lifestyles. She is clearly at peace and inspires others. I think it’s so sad how the family has been broken down so much that it’s considered somehow shameful to have a stable family who loves and cares about you. My husband and I are not rich and we own property in mountains outside of our main home. Her mom did an amazing job teaching her to cook like that: I can’t even cook some of the level of difficulty stuff when cooks. She also grows her own food, has an organic cookbook, has amazing yoga videos, and writes music and records music. I love isabelles channel. She is just flourishing almost in this creepy blog guys face/ I bet money this guy who wrote this blog was the guy who drove onto her property, what psycho would use google satellite: I also have to note I can’t even see my own roads in google satellite let alone a wooden bridge…he was the egg guy and he is clearly butt hurt she made fun of him 😂😂😂😂😂

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      1. In reply to MamaBearRN,

        You wrote, “You really don’t get Yoga and being one with nature. I am a nurse….” blah, blah, blah. It doesn’t matter if you THINK that you are one with nature, and that you are a NURSE, two weeks ago Leah Lokan, a 65-year-old NURSE from California, was on a mountain biking trip with two friends and was dragged from her tent and killed by a 400lb Grizzly Bear. I guess the Grizzly Bear didn’t know that she was a nurse and did Yoga and was one with nature.

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      2. at least 80% of those recipes were copied from Pinterest, not created by her. I am assuming I am older than you because, it was a normal thing for a mother to teach her children to cook while growing up, not something that was considered amazing. I don’t much care for Isabel’s videos because they are TOO bubbly, come across as somewhat fake. I do enjoy Hannah Lee Duggan’s channel. I have heard many things about Isabel’s lifestyle not being what she portrays which is fine if her fans know that, but not fine if she is duping them. Many have sent her money and gifts because “she has no money”, umm yes she does.

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  5. Reading all of these comments is very saddening. I have admiration for this young woman because she is actively seeking out a way to live her life so that it actually has meaning for her. As she clearly states in one of her most recent videos ‘if you do what you are passionate about, the way forward will reveal itself. I admire her for having the guts to follow her own pathway and not succumb to the general herd mentality. Her desire to want to be more in touch with nature and the simple things in life is something that many people yearn for. She promotes many things that could benefit young people ie., her incredibly healthy eating routine, her yoga, being able to work long hard hours at jobs in order to fullfill real and tangible goals -not just working because society says you have to, being in touch with nature and getting out and amongst it as opposed to sitting around on phones for hours and hours at a time, being resourceful enough to build and make things rather than mindlessly going and buying everything. Lastly, I have no issue with her seeking the help of her parents in fact her relationship with her family seems very healthy and nurturing. The message here is clearly – think for yourself and take charge of your life!!!

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    1. Leslie, in a way, you’re an idiot. No really, you’re an idiot, and you make me angry.

      For every young lady who has wealthy parents, they can take the path of going to college and becoming an archeologist, biologist, attorney, or medical doctor. Is this being strong, brave, and independent?

      For every young lady who has wealthy parents, they can take the path of becoming a model, a musician, an actress, a travel journalist, opening a clothing store, becoming a personal trainer. Is this being strong, brave, independent?

      For young women who don’t have both a mother and a father, who have no money whatsoever in their family, they have to work at whatever job they can find, eat whatever food they are able to obtain, live in whatever situation they are stuck in, with no means to get away from it.

      Your ideas Leslie are just stupid, naive, dumb fantasies with little relevance to real life. Go read about the vast majority of women on Earth who live in China, India, Africa, South America. Do you think they take a couple of hours to get up in the morning sipping coffee, then go leisure hiking for a couple of hours, then take a couple of hours to prepare and eat lunch? No, the vast majority of women on Earth wake up wearing tattered worn clothing, work doing hard labor from sunrise to sunset, become pregnant and give birth again and again whether they want to or not, suffer poor health from a lack of nutrition, wear-out and age early, live a life of near slavery due to their circumstances. Some wealthy affluent pampered white girl who lives on her parents’ property and plays all day is your hero?

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    2. Looks like she has fooled you Leslie. Have you never noticed that every time she wants to build something she goes off to town and buys it, just like everyone else has to do, but she is surrounded by pine trees and rocks. You never see her cutting them down and sawing planks out of them to build her projects for free, or breaking rocks down to provide hardstanding to build on. She spends a fortune on materials in her videos, but have you never wondered how can she afford it when she doesn’t appear to have a job, and much in the way of savings either? If it is true that she is earning $200,000 per year in income from her videos, then youtube is her job, and it’s a very well paid one. It is no coincedence that she wanders around half naked in most of her videos…It brings in more viewers, who might end up subscribing, and end up making her even more money. It’s a form of Click bait…And her friend Hannah Lee Duggan does exactly the same thing. But if you think her content is completely genuine, and that she really is basically a hard working peasant girl, living in a remote farm which makes zero income appart from what little she can gather and barter from the wilderness around her, then think again…She is really a hard headed business women who relies on suckers for her lovely big doe eyes to keep the money rolling in. But she now has another issue…Single male watchers who till now were able to fantasize about making her their girlfriend have had their hopes dashed as she is now living with some small time record producer/musician…”Ain’t no single man got time for that”. And it will probably cost her many viewers as a result.

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      1. You are a grown man being a bully to a young women who is not jaded. Let people decide for themself. If you haven’t figured it out for yourself that you can not afford to live like this then you are an absolute idiot. What a Dick you are and everyone are for judging this young women on her art! I wonder how it must be to be a miserable old person to have time to bully a young women just doing her thing. WGAF if she has her dads tools or how much money she has to spend.

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      2. In reply to Wendie Huntington,

        If someone makes YouTube videos showing their personal life, most of what they do on a day-to-day and long-term basis, and some of this person’s viewers comment, “Hey, wait a minute, this person claims to have built this home on this land, and this doesn’t add up. The cost of this land, the road construction, the electric service, the cost of of the well-drilling, the cost of the Tiny-House construction, this could all cost $100K. How did she say she saved this money working as a waitress for one year?’ How are comments like this bullying?

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    3. The problem is that it’s all a facade. She lives on her parents’ land. It’s the equivalent of living in your parents basement and then talking about your success in life. Then there’s the aspect of showing you that she’s living one way and then at night retreating to the parents heated mountain home. Her recipes were copied from the internet. Until her youtube channel was monetized, she was literally living off of her parents. That’s not something to be proud of. Her show is good entertainment but it’s not real.

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      2. In reply to Ivankinsman,

        Ivan, I went and looked at your website “rainwaterrunoff.com” to see what you were writing about. Regarding Isabel Paige, you allowed her to either submit or write her own introduction about herself, which I do not think is always going to be the most truthful or factual way to present someone. Then, you featured about six of her YouTube videos, with no explanation or review of this material or her content.

        At the bottom of this coverage of Isabel Paige, there was a reference to a previous post “Martin Johnson – Off-Grid Living in North Dakota”. Martin Johnson does not live in North Dakota, he lives in Idaho, which is a vastly different eco-system than North Dakota. This error is very disrespectful to the Martin Johnson family, it’s like you don’t give a shit.

        I don’t know if you are trying to do too much and you don’t have time to check, verify, perform an assessment of validity, so that your website can be trusted for correct information, or if you are just trying to fill your website with content to try to make it look good.

        You don’t have to put this warning on your website, but I will tell you here, Hippies are some of the most self-centered, selfish, lazy, good-for-nothing people on Earth. Hippies don’t like to be told what to do by their parents, teachers, authority figures, law enforcement, or government. Hippies don’t like to put much effort into anything, not school, not personal study, not work, not career, not helping others, not fighting for causes. On the other hand, Hippies like to indulge themselves: indulge in travel, entertainment, food, recreation, amusement, sex, drugs, and things that provide them personal gratification like popularity or attention.

        I read and looked at some of your other sections of “rainwaterrunoff.com”, where there are hardworking farmers and industrious people who put a great deal of effort into growing food. I don’t know what YOUR goal is with YOUR website, is it just for popularity & views? Are a large part of your viewers Hippie people? If I were you, from now on I would scrutinize the self-promoting Van-Life, Hippie-Traveler, Virtue-Signaling Homesteader to not allow them to diminish the credibility of your website.

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      3. OK thank you for pointing that out about Martin Johnson and I will correct the information about the state – I am responsible for putting up all the content on http://www.rainwaterrrunoff.com and sometimes errors can occur.
        Ref. Isabel Paige – I personally have given up watching the videos as I often find them now too rambling and very little seem to happen in them. That’s the beauty of YouTube – you can choose or reject channels. As you say, there are more interesting ones where small family farmers and homesteaders are putting in the hard graft to make their land sustainable and profitable.

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      4. In reply to Ivankinsman,

        As part of the Homestead Act of the 1860s, a requirement was that the western territories and western states be surveyed and divided into “Townships”. Each Township would consist of 36 “Sections”. Each Section was 1 mile x 1 mile in size, which equaled 640 acres. The Homestead Act Land Grants gave settlers 1/4 of a Section, which equaled 160 acres.

        The idea of the Homestead Act, was that there would be 4 Families living on each Section, times 36 Sections, equaled 144 families per Township.

        I found an old book from (correction 1917) titled “Standard Atlas Of Hettinger County North Dakota”, from a publisher that made these books for counties in the western states of the U.S. Each book contained an up-to-date map of the U.S. showing each state, rivers, and railroad lines. Then, there were many detailed maps and plats of that state, showing the counties, townships, sections, and FAMILY NAMES FOR EACH OF THE 1/4 SECTION HOMESTEAD LAND GRANTS.

        Studying the Township plat maps which each contained 36 Sections, by (correction 1917) approximately half of the Sections had not yet been homesteaded. FARMING WAS SO HARD AND DIFFIUCLT, THAT NOT ONLY WAS THE LAND NOT HOMESTEADED, MORE AND MORE FAMILIES BEGAN MOVING AWAY.

        My point in explaining this to you, is that farming is so hard and difficult, that in the U.S. people began moving off of their family farms in the 1920s and 1930s because even low-wage no-skilled or semi-skilled work in the cities was a much easier and more comfortable life than farming.

        I don’t want young people or city dwellers to get the wrong idea about farming, it is very, very hard work, and not glamorous at all. The work is difficult, there are all kinds of natural hindrances, crops can be destroyed by high winds, draught, hail, tornado, fire, insects. On small-scale farms now, a family would not earn enough money farming to pay for health insurance, vacations, a new vehicle, or hardly any luxuries.

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      5. Well, this is exactly why I founded the website http://www.rainwaterrrunoff.com, as it covers issues impacting small family farmers and homesteaders.
        There is currently a trend reversing the migration of people from the land to the municipal centres, as more people, especially parents with young kids, are now prepared to earn less money but have a better quality of life.
        I have featured plenty of homesteaders so that existing ones can learn from each other and people thinking or new to it can learn exactly what the challenges and benefits are.
        Why is this so important? Because the Green Revolution, initiated by Earl Butz, the Secretary of Agriculture during the Nixon regime, ripped the heart out of many small rural towns and communities. Deep-thinking agriculturalists like Wendell Berry immediately recognised the downsides to the industrialisation of agriculture and his book, The Unsettling of America, is a classic because it shows the path that is needed to return to the small farm operations that existed before the 1960s/1970s.
        There are alot of smallholders where one of the partners has a full-time job and the other runs the property, and making the transition to earning an income off the homestead/small farm is a challenge as you say in the existing environment. However, the consumer is becoming a lot more savvy about where their food comes from, and more are now choosing to buy their food produced locally.

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      6. In reply to Ivankinsman,

        In order to try to get people to see the difference between the romanticized “fake” portrayal of off-grid living and subsistence farming, versus the reality of homesteading, I am going to write a blog post article showing the photographs from the Facebook Page “Abandoned Dakotas”, which has hundreds of photographs of “abandoned” farms. But I need to be careful to explain that land is not “abandoned” as in “free” or “come and take it”, it is owned by someone.

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      7. OK, I would be interested to read it so please let me know when released. I also suggest a book by Jonathan Raban called ‘Badland’ that describes the settlement and then abandonment of homesteads in Montana.

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      8. In reply to ivankinsman,

        My blog post is up, it was meant to be a presentation and explanation of abandoned homesteads in North Dakota using photographs from the Facebook Group “Dakotas Abandoned Images”, there are hundreds of photographs. However, I realized that the photographs were not loading onto my blog post as images, but instead as URL addresses. Clicking on these URL addresses may not even load the photograph for the average user if they are not a member of the Facebook Group “Dakotas Abandoned Images”. The Facebook group wants to be able to control and block access if it discovers the wrong people are trying to find a location in order to trespass, which leads to vandalism, theft, unauthorized exploration or camping. I will work on this blog post a little more, but here it is https://dickinson58601.com/2022/01/16/off-grid-sustainable-farming-fantasy-versus-homesteading-reality/ I recommend joining the Facebook Group “Dakotas Abandoned Images” if you want to see all of their photos https://www.facebook.com/groups/202208077222746/

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  6. I think it’s co-opting an “impoverished” lifestyle as a form of virtue signaling. We live in an age where it’s cool to be different while ripping off from the disadvantaged. Wearing torn, ugly clothes from a thrift store shows how “down-to-earth” you are. Eating food from your own garden when you have the option to do postmates shows how “woke” you are and even how environmentally conscious you are. All of these gestures signal to your greatness and superiority as a human. Being wealthy isn’t as cool as being wealthy and CHOOSING not to live that way.

    It’s a kind of appropriation of a “lower class” for the purpose of signaling higher consciousness.
    But it does NOT respect that actual people who exist on a subsistence level who have to grow their own food or buy clothes from thrift. It does not respect the people who don’t get to elect to live in their car or who have to survive a winter alone in the cold. It does not respect the people who HAVE to bathe in the river.
    It’s trying on different cultures and classes, for that matter, as though being in a privileged class affords a person with ultimate choice.

    “Today I will be poor. Tomorrow I’ll stay in a resort.” At any moment a flight can be booked. At any moment I can be warm and fed. The ignorance around this topic suggests the greater privilege embedded in this ideology: “I do what I want.”

    I find it offensive on some level. But after writing this, I can also imagine these influencers talking about their privilege in their next video and how they want to pay homage to the people actually struggling. This will be said as a way to wash their sins and signal once again, “I’m woke. Look, I know I’m privileged.”

    Signals, signals, signals…of what?

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    1. Lauren,

      Thank you for your comment. You are probably correct. I was getting tired, angry, and frustrated with Isabel’s viewers continually commenting, “Look how independent and resourceful she is.” Isabel is almost the epitome of not being independent and resourceful, I get tired of pointing out that she is living on her parents’ property where they pay all of the bills, and her father was about 80% responsible for the tiny-house that she lives in being constructed.

      One of Isabel’s slightly older friends who is also a YouTuber, a year ago she began making videos of her new house. I couldn’t understand how this young lady could afford this property or how she could get approved for a mortgage without having a job. I looked up this property on the county tax records, and it showed that one year prior, this YouTuber’s mother had purchased this property. And, when this property was supposedly purchased by this YouTuber, her mother’s name stayed on the deed.

      When people comment on how these two young women, Isabel and her slightly older friend, are so brave, resourceful, and independent, after a while it drives me up the wall because their wealthy parents provided them with the place that they live, and provide a constant safety net, ready to respond whenever they get into trouble or need help.

      As far as co-opting being poor, one aspect of this is that 70% of the people in the U.S. are poor now, with about 90% of young people being poor, so if you are a YouTube creator and you want to have a large following, you should try to appeal and connect with the largest number of people, not necessarily the smartest people or the most successful people, just the most number of people.

      This large mass of poor people is entertained by watching some young woman bathe in the river nearly naked while screaming, running across a field shrieking, hiking in the woods by herself with no firearm or cell phone service, walking 1/2-1 mile in the snow to her vehicle without being booted and bundled up. I don’t think that these things are entertaining, they are irritating to me, not a good idea, show poor planning, no foresight.

      This large mass of people, that perceive living on your parents’ property as being independent, repeatedly doing foolish things as being brave, relying on other people to bail you out when you get into trouble as being strong, are the stupid people who push for political correctness, an end to free speech, government spending that can’t be paid for, charlatan idiot representatives in government, and inevitably Socialism/Communism.

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  7. The safety points I all agree – the egg thing though – i don’t live far from her and many people have chickens in their back yard – you can have a few even in the city – no one really has an actual chicken farm – so though I can go buy eggs for a couple bucks at the store for about the same price I can get really pretty fresh healthy happy chicken eggs from a neighbour. Frequently theres an honour system where you drop money in the mail box if you know where to go – so the story didn’t seem crazy – though the situation doesn’t sit right.

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    1. In the South where I am from, prior to 1990 there were occasionally farmers that allowed people to pick what they wanted and leave the money, for things like oranges, watermelon, and corn. On a very affluent private island further south on the Indian River, someone had so many avocados growing that they would pick them and leave them out by the road on a bench.

      Now, no matter where you live, sorry to have to tell you, you don’t want people coming onto your property for any reason, especially when you aren’t there. Anything like a swimming pool, play ground equipment, trampoline, tree fort is what is known in law as an “attractive nuisance”, something that attracts, lures, brings people onto your property so when these uninvited people get hurt, you likely could be liable for their injuries. Besides someone getting hurt on your property and suing you, criminals and opportunist thieves love coming onto other people’s property to see what it is that they have to steal, what is valuable, who lives there, when are they home.

      It sucks to have to be like this, but is it worth getting sued by someone you have never met and don’t know, when they trip and fall coming onto your property because you sell $2 worth of eggs per day? Be careful, Homeowner’s Insurance may try to get out of paying for someone’s injury on the grounds that you were operating a business at your address, even if it’s just $2 in eggs per day.

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      1. I mean you’re not wrong at all – liability and all. Positively up pacific north west in the small enough towns we do lots of things honour system – I’ve lived in my town most of my life and we have a selling system where you put $ under someones doormat for things. Been this way for years and shockingly still works in 2021. The veggie stand by the old bridge has a scale and you weigh out your veggies yourself and take your own change from the cash box.

        All I meant in my tale was that the story was plausible – not that those guys didnt seem sus and not that it is a great idea to have people wandering on your property.

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      2. Abby,

        I was under the impression that the entire Pacific Northwest had been ruined by drug use, drug addiction, drug dealing, drug trafficking, and drug crime. I have lived in the 2007-2015 oil boom area of North Dakota since 2011, almost 100% of the people that came here to ND from Washington State and Coeur D’Alene were drug infested. They had problems finding a job, keeping a job, or doing a job because they wouldn’t/couldn’t show up for work, couldn’t work because they couldn’t think straight, couldn’t act right at work, they were very unreliable, and acted like they were out-of-their-mind about half the time.

        There was a shortage of labor during the oil boom, and businesses hired people that acted and appeared questionable. If there was someone working at any kind of business, convenience store, restaurant, auto repair, construction site who started acting very strange and doing very strange things, it came to be no surprise that they were either from Washington State or Coeur D’Alene.

        Twice someone from Washington State asked me to jump start their truck, and both times they began to connect the jumper cables the wrong way, my positive cable to their negative cable, they couldn’t even identify the negative cable on their own truck, nor understand that this would fry the electrical and computers on their vehicle, plus damage my alternator. Coeur D’Alene people were just as bad or worse, their brains were totally scrambled.

        Whenever I see a Washington State license plate, or an Idaho license plate beginning with a “K” for Coeur D’Alene, I gasp “Oh No!” and try to keep as far as possible away from them.

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      3. Abigail also included the seemingly required “topless-and-a**-cheeks-showing-back-view-in-the-water-clickbait-humbnail” ubiquitous to this genre of video, as well. Lol. Dougan also has an identical thumbnail, as does about a dozen other such female content creators I’ve seen so far. It’s hilarious. I should make a montage video of these.

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    1. Joy,

      Yes, some women are lucky like that, initially they seem interesting and attractive, initially people like them, until they find out what they are hiding and what they are really like.

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  9. Talk about stalker alert. You feign concern for her safety. Yet you layout the foundation for incompetent predatory to stalk someone. Brilliant. You assumptions are an ass who can not accept people can live outside your self righteous and subjective realities eh There is a pantheon of people living off grid and semi outside dependant. In this exact kind of terrain locations all through the mountains some distance from a small village/ community, and many more miles from a major town or city Also depending on the region some parks do in fact have a budget for homesteaders road services. Check this out more thoroughly. I also put to you this. Can your 20 something daughters and sons do what she has at her age. If the shit hits the fan. Her life experience is more valuable then any college education. You are piece of work bullshitting you concerns about possible circumstances and a big one that her parents do not care about her. Wow Here is a flash for you sunshine. Ultra small communities are ultra alert to strangers and their vehicles. It is like they all know each other who does and doesn’t belong. This is No different then my current “land” soon to be a “gasp” “a farm/ ranch”. Also where I was born and raised. This is an almost regular way of life. Granted I will give you not many young girls on their own. But…. wait for it, there are indeed a few . Since it sounds like you live on line because…? Well that’s your business. So you’ve stalked Hanna too eh Wow if you feel the need to Kojack or Rockford someone’s life. You just became prime person of interest to viewers and law enforcement. Seriously you are concerned about viability and safety as an excuse in writing an expose of someone’s life…. Feeble attempt to cast off attention. Oh and FYI the population in general is pretty dam smart. You are not explaining much anyone can’t figure out themselves. My teen daughter watch these van life, and cabin, little rural homes videos. They voice observation of wildlife and wildfire, medical emergencies etc Didn’t need my comments and combat veteran savy to prompt their eyes wide open nature of curiosity. It goes without saying some people have life situations better suited then others to take a plunge and follow a dream. I’d suggest you take up a new hobby say model railways or an instrument. Very relaxing and rewarding…… Trying to dispel someone’s life is not saving the world. The poor you disappointed opinionated assertion that Isabel’s life can’t be is laughable.. Oh here’s something else eh Many people I know including myself often call a chunk of property “the farm/ ranch” Oh and remote farms can work quite self sufficient and provide a future savings btw. This is my personal observation of my real experience.
    Where I am from there are young women independently living as Isabel is doing. Some on inheritance land, some of existing farms, some on bought or leased land starting from scratch. The community village people’s band together helping each other with skills and or equipment etc The village is an intermediary to the bigger town/ city further away. For resources/ supplies. Man just let it go. I hope for your sake nothing happens eh Red flag went up as soon as you itemized your incredible Columbia skills. Using a thinly veiled reasoning. Just saying eh

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    1. Neil, I think that you didn’t watch very many of Isabel Paige’s videos, prior to becoming an expert on her and her situation. Nor did you pay attention when you were reading my blog post article about her.

      Neil, did you know that there is no livestock or farm animal of any kind whatsoever on Isabel Paige’s farm?

      Neil, did you know that in the more than one year that Isabel Paige has lived on this farm, there has not been any food harvested?

      Neil, did you know that this land was purchased by her mother and father who live in Seattle, in 2015 with the intention if it becoming a legal marijuana growing operation?

      From the way that you write, and the things that you wrote, it appears to me that you are from southeast Asia. I can tell that you probably favor Socialism and Communism. In combination with your enthusiasm for a simple villager lifestyle, you would probably like to see the U.S. fail and descend into Socialism and Communism. The more young people that look to emulate Isabel Paige and Hannah Lee Duggan, living on their parents property and not working, living in a van and not working, the quicker the downfall of the U.S. You sneaky devil you.

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    1. In reply to comment from “dickinson58601istrash”,

      My first response to your comment is this: I do not think that Isabel Paige is attractive. This is a case of the more you find out about someone, the less that you like them, until you don’t like them at all. At first, I actually believed that here was a young lady that was going home to live and work on her family’s farm. Most farmers are very hard working, no-nonsense, no bullshit, poor or very poor.

      When I looked up this property where she lives, and I found out that this property was purchased in 2015 by her parents who live in Seattle for $500K, with the intention of becoming a legal marijuana growing operation, this is the exact opposite end of the spectrum of poor, hardworking, no bullshit farmers. These are Seattle people.

      My second response to your comment is this: From the Cambridge English Dictionary, here are two definitions of the verb “Stalk”:

      “to follow an animal or person as closely as possible without being seen or heard, usually in order to catch or kill them”

      “to illegally follow and watch someone over a period of time”

      Looking up a YouTube personality on the internet (like you have done), and writing an article about them is NOT “illegal”, “following”, “watching”, it’s called WRITING AN ARTICLE.

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    2. Please can you come with better criticism than constantly attacking a man who thinks Isabel is a fake. Sure, call him dirty old man, but it’s ok for Isabel to run around naked and show everyone her booty?

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  11. Wow! The hatred here is astounding. The demand that Isabel live a more ‘normal’ life is incredible. She comes across happy and energetic. This is something our couch potato selves and children don’t do. We and ours have NO motivation to do much of anything. It shows in our society. She doesn’t promote drugs, alcohol, or much else. She appears to be vegan, but doesn’t shove that in your face. You can always go back to watching porn, I guess, if you don’t like watching her videos. And, yeah, if any of you are on your soapboxes, saying you are no jealous of her ability to roam freely, you are lying. In this country, we have the right to choose our future, at our own prosperity or at our own peril. You chose yours. Let her choose hers. You didn’t raise her; it is not really your business, nor mine.

    As for me, I am retired, fairly disabled, and don’t have much else to do. I watch these young women, such as Isabel and Hannah, and marvel at what they do, with and without the assistance of family. Most families are so very disfunctional today. I also marvel at their ability to not project hatred toward anybody. THAT is what makes them attractive to me. If you don’t want to watch them as obsessively as you do, hell, turn them off. I choose to watch obsessively. They are fun, and better quality than anything on cable today, fiction or non-fiction.

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  12. Whoa this blog… Made me actually leave a comment which I never do.
    This might not come through because you seem like a very bitter person but – so what if she is to some degree “fake”? What is it to YOU? How is this affecting YOU personally? Is she a stock you invested in? No. Is she related to you? Also no. So why on the mother earth does it matter?

    She single-handedly did more for young & old generations than most of other people on social media – she introduced a way to live less damaging to the planet, more compassion for animals, self sufficiency that is more than lacking in younger generations glued to phones, cooking your own food, respect for nature which has been disappearing,… What has YOUR post done? Or what have YOU done? The aim for this post was nothing else but to tear a young girl down who (even if under the pretense – which I don’t believe) IS making a change and shifting at least part of generation in the right way. I mean that was supposed to be the point, right? Or why were you so “disappointed”?

    And to those saying this is an attempt to be “woke” – i know exactly which party you belong to and it’s incredibly sad that understanding the damage we as humans have done to this planet in the last 50 years is some sort of political move or virtue signaling to some who can’t seem to see further than their own butthole or what Steven Crowder told them to think.

    Tbh the amount of research you did on a stranger and people connected to her.. it’s a good thing you gave her advice to put some fence and cameras on. You sound like the one she should be avoiding.

    My advice? Use the last remaining years on this planet to actually do good and don’t tear young random women down online like you actually gained something from this other than satisfactory few bitter comments to support your “theory”.

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    1. Zelda,

      I don’t know if you realize what you are actually saying and advocating.

      Do you really mean that young people should drop out of college, move back in with their parents, try to get their parents to build them a 10’x12′ shed on wheels to live out of in the back yard, have their parents pay for their cost of housing, utilities, auto insurance, auto repair, health insurance?

      For parents or adults who think things through, it is the best thing to do to raise children who are as independent as possible, as ready as possible to go out on their own, wanting to go out on their own, and become able to support themselves financially.

      Parents and adults can accomplish helping young people to become independent and self-supporting by not giving them everything and providing them with everything. If no automobile is provided for them or only a poor quality automobile, it will give the young person the incentive to work and buy their own vehicle or a better vehicle. If parents refuse to allow their children to move back home, and instead get whatever job that they can and whatever roommate apartment sharing they can, it will give them incentive to get a better job in order to afford a better place to live. Overall, when a young person begins to realize that they are going to go through life with no vehicle, a shitty vehicle, living in a ghetto apartment, they might realize that going to college in order to become a physical therapist or something, is worth the effort.

      Don’t encourage young people to drop out of college, work part-time at a low paying job, move back in with their mom & dad so that the parents can continue to pay most of their bills, and espouse this “sustainable living” mumbo-jumbo SCAM, where no food is grown, no work is done, and people just fuck off all day.

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  13. I’m blown away at the audacity of most of you to criticize this young lady for making a living. Feel free to post your views on today’s youth in America, or YouTubers, but this is just creepy. She’s just a YouTuber like many others. She may not be for everybody, but she’s inspiring some. Leave her the hell alone and consider your own critical lives.

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    1. In reply to Steve,

      At first I thought that you were Isabel’s father because of your name and gravatar photo, but once I looked you up I saw that you were not her father.

      In your comment you wrote, “Leave her the hell alone and consider your own critical lives.” What is wrong with you? What is wrong with your mind and your thinking? You seem to know that Isabel Paige makes YouTube videos that each receive hundreds of thousands of views, but somehow, I don’t know how or why, you have this idea in your head that no one is allowed to say anything critical about her YouTube videos.

      Can you tell me why no one is allowed to disagree with Isabel, or say something critical about what Isabel does?

      Is it your belief that anyone can only say positive and complimentary things about Isabel?

      I looked you up Steve, and I read a little bit about your life. You live in California which explains a lot. You probably voted Democrat. It’s a Democrat tactic, that if you don’t like what someone else has to say, even though they have a right to say it, contrary to the 1st Amendment to the Constitution, you want to try to take away free speech from anyone who disagrees with you. It also looks like hand-in-hand with you being a Democrat in California, you worked in government, which explains even more.

      The government is highly inefficient, bureaucratic, bloated, self-serving, with self-serving entitled people, who waste their entire budget so that they can receive an even higher budget the following year, seeking more and more money, more and more authority, more and more control, sucking the money from the private working sector and private working people to pay for their attempt to eventually take over everything completely. But that’s the California & Democrat way.

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    1. In reply to summer,

      Summer, what is really bothering me, I can’t get this vision out of my head, I keep seeing this over and over since that no-good bush-wacker “Egg Man” came driving up to Isabel and her father. I keep seeing in my vision that the “Egg Man” fiend and a couple of his friends are going to come back with a large car tire, and tell Isabel that they want to climb to the top of the mountain with her in order to get some exercise, and that carrying the car tire is part of some cross-fit-training program. Maybe even get Isabel to carry the tire part of the way. And then when they get to the top of the mountain, they are going to make Isabel get inside the tire, and then they are going to shove this tire down the mountain with Isabel in it! I keep seeing in my mind’s eye, that tire spinning down the mountain with Isabel, going faster and faster, bouncing higher and higher, then eventually landing in the creek! Maybe that new fence they put up around the garden might stop or slow down that spinning tire. Oh I hope this never happens, praise Jesus!

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      1. Lmao you were the egg man weren’t you…did that hurt your feelings stalker man. Communism encourages women to be forced to work and illuminati manifesto pushes women to not be feminine and do stay at home mom things. She can cook food from scratch and grows her own food, has an amazing cookbook she released, makes artistic content. Her yoga video has made me so thin this summer. Her overall health and mental health is 10x better than any kid that age that I know. She promoted nature, organic living, and writes music, and makes a good living. I find her truly inspiring. I am a mom of two kids and a nurse. I find her inspiring and beautiful inside and out. Telling women they can’t be feminine or supported by there parents. If my kids don’t choose to be burdened with college debt for some bullshit corrupt job or degree and they find some other way to make a living, that is amazing. You probably are just butt hurt and sad that she made fun of you at her property and called you the egg guy. Hahaha

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      2. In reply to MammabearRN,

        Wow, besides your username, you made it halfway through a paragraph before you said that you were a nurse.

        Let me explain something to you, the top 10% of high school graduates go on to college and eventually become medical doctors, attorneys, engineers, college professors with a PhD., accountants, business majors who own or manage a business.

        Women who are right in the middle of the high school graduating class, the 50% mark, go on to become beauticians, real estate agents, elementary school teachers, bartenders, join the military, work in retail sales, administrative assistants, bank tellers, and nurses.

        Nurses are not highly intelligent. They just are not. As an example of nurses not being highly intelligent, take yourself for instance, you don’t even have the self-awareness to stand back and take a look at yourself, and make an adequate comparison to other people. I will try to explain it to you, “professionals”, such as medical doctors, attorneys, engineers, and accountants often have their own building, where they practice their profession, have no one supervising them in their practice, set their own business hours as they see fit, leave work at whatever time of day that they please, schedule vacations whenever they please for however long they desire, dress however they please.

        In contrast to a “professional” like a medical doctor, attorney, engineer, or accountant, NURSES require constant direct supervision, set work hours, set work schedule, set amount of days off, set dress code, they can not leave work and return to work as they please, because nursing is a blue-collar job. Somehow, the ham-fisted, nasty, mean bitch nursing instructors set the example of being know-it-alls, and the medical doctor faculty didn’t want to waste their time and energy arguing with the nursing instructors because there was no point, so nursing students got the impression that they should be know-it-alls too.

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  15. She is young and apparently she doesnt have to worry to much about money. She has worked in a grocery store. She also has had some jobs overseas. She is a storyteller. Whether it is fiction or not a lot of people watch it.

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  16. Do any of you critics produce anything of value. She’s fine, her parents are fine, her videos are fine. As with any published content, or anything in general, you can find flaws if that’s what is important to you. A problem in our society seems to be that “flaws”, are what’s important, and not the value of the content. How about everyone lighten up a bit.

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    1. In reply to Doug,

      If you actually read and paid attention to my blog post article about Isabel Paige and the comments that people left, the “value” is that young people are being warned that you can’t work as a waitress or other low-paying job for a year, quit your job, go buy a piece of land, build a tiny-house, and start trying to grow your own food, or you will die from starvation or freezing to death.

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  17. I simply cannot understand at all how obsessed can someone be with a person that they hate. She’s just enjoying her life and there’s nothing wrong with it. And what are you doing with your life? cause you’ve clearly spent SO much time watching her videos, writing all these, answering comments. Why aren’t you focusing on the stuff you wanna do in your life and stop criticizing? Do you really think that writing all that will actually help the humanity and make the world a better place? I think the world has bigger problems than a young girl “misleading” young people and make them believe that living that life will only bring happiness and no struggles(btw she talks about her struggles too in her videos). If you are stupid enough to believe it is that easy, you’ll aslo be too stupid to make it happen. So don’t be so worried about people doing that and ending up poor. They won’t do it. Also, i don’t understand what’s your problem with supporting parents. If they have the money to help her and support her, what’s stopping them? It’s a bless to have parents that are willing to make the beginning of your adult life a bit easier. It doesn’t mean that their children won’t be able to take care of themselves in the future. She has done a lot of stuff on her own. And even if she has some help, what’s the problem with that? She’s not making her parents do all that, she’s doing it WITH them. And she’s just saying how much she’s enjoying her life, NOT urging young people to do the same. Don’t ask me “why does she have to show us then?”, that’s her job! She makes money out of it. I would do it too if i liked it and had the skills. Why are you focusing on her so much and not other people that are richer than her and are famous and rich just because of their name? THAT is unfair, and the way they’re showing us their wealth claiming it all came from their hard work…bullshit.
    And why are you so mad about young people not going to college or not wanting a full time well paid job or a family and a big house? Why do you care about what other people think of as a happy life? It’s like, say I wanna become an astronaut and I think that everyone else that has a different goal is stupid.Why don’t you want to become an astronaut? It pays a lot. What’s stopping you from going to college to study for something that will give you so much money to be able to make a big family and live in a big house? It’s really specific, but basically it is exactly what you’re saying. If I don’t find any interest in doing something, then I won’t be able to achieve it. I won’t be able to study something that will give me a bright future,and even if I try so hard and finish it, it will be difficult to find a job because I won’t like it, and even if i do find it, i won’t be paid well because I won’t be passionate about it and won’t give my 100%, and even if I’m paid well, I’ll be stuck working on something I don’t like for the rest of my life just for money. That’s a big no. I don’t wanna be miserable in my life. If you like something, you should focus on that and try making it happen. I’m not saying it always works out the way we want it(that would be invalidating for the people in third world countries that are actually struggling for the basics and don’t have access to the things they want, like free education), but you shouldn’t give up before you even try. It might as well take some sacrifices to get you there, like working hard doing small jobs. Or it might not cause you’re a bit privileged and have the money and support. And that’s ok. Unfortunately, there’s not total equality on this planet and it is unfair, but that’s life. And if it bothers us, we should focus on the big problem, that is, on the one side, helping very poor people, and on the other side, calling out billionaires. Not Isabel…
    So, I believe criticizing others and their lives won’t take us anywhere. Let’s focus on our doing and what we’re passionate about, on our growth and happiness. Don’t live someone else’s life by focusing on what they do, wrong or right. Focus on YOU and YOUR life, because it’s gonna be over at some point and you’ll regret not having done stuff and instead wasted time on someone else’s life.

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    1. In reply to Jon,

      Do you realize, that every single thing that you chastised me for in your very long comment, that you have just now done the exact same thing?

      You went on and on about how I should not be critical of what another person does, while you are being critical of what I am doing.

      You went on and on about how I should pay attention to my own life instead of criticizing others, when the same thing applies to you. Maybe you should pay attention to your own life, instead of criticizing me.

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      1. Yeah actually I thought about it while writing all that, I’m not gonna lie. It’s just that I’m not planning spending months on that. I just really felt like trying to change your view on this. Or maybe try to understand you more, because I’m really curious why you are so passionate about it. And also I would appreciate it if you commented on all the other things I said.

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      2. In reply to Jon,

        I will address one aspect of your comment regarding, “why do I care if Isabel is misleading young people”, “why do I care if Isabel’s parents have money”, and “why do I care if young people are poor”.

        Young people enjoy watching Isabel’s videos because they show someone close to their age doing whatever she wants, all day long, every day, without anyone telling her what to do. Young people come out and say that they would like to live the life of Isabel.

        In Isabel’s earlier videos from more than one year ago, she describes that she dropped out of college, travelled, worked as a waitress in Hawaii, lived in her van, worked as a waitress in Seattle. She either comes out and says it, or implies that she saved up enough money working as a waitress to build her tiny-house. Young people look at this background of Isabel leading up to the life that she is living now, as instructions that they can duplicate or follow.

        I estimate that the trailer frame, building materials, wiring, fixtures, windows, doors, hardware that were required for Isabel’s tiny-house cost at least $8,000. The tools that Isabel’s father provided were worth about $4,000, though it could have been constructed slower with about $1,000 worth of tools. If the skilled and un-skilled labor that Isabel’s father provided had to be replaced with paid workers, add about 70 man-hours of labor at $25 per hour, add $1,750.

        A water-well installation where the ground water level is at or near 100 ft depth costs $5,000-$10,000.

        I went through these costs to build a tiny-house, $8K for building materials, $1K for tools, over $1K for hired help, at least $5K for a water-well, totaling $15K, not even including the land, electric service, or septic system, to try to show how much money it costs to build a tiny-house.

        Young people need to understand, that most waitresses & waiters, even living in low-rent housing with roommates, are not able to save hardly any money. Even people working at one employment level up from a waitress or waiter as a CNA Certified Nursing Assistant have a hard time saving money because all of their income goes towards their cost of living.

        Dropping out of college, travelling, working as a waitress/waiter is not going to allow young people to save up enough money for the at least $15K that it takes to build a tiny-house, not even including the cost of the land. Do Not try to follow Isabel’s example, it will not work. Isabel was able to build her tiny-house because her parents already owned the land, the water-well had already been installed by her parents, the access road had already been cleared by her parents, the electric service to the property had already been installed by her parents. Isabel’s father already owned a truck to pick up, deliver, and set-up Isabel’s trailer frame, pick up and deliver all of the building materials, and he already owned all of the tools to construct Isabel’s tiny house. Plus Isabel’s father was experienced in construction, I believe that he did most of the layout and construction, and he did all of this for free.

        Young people enjoy Isabel’s videos because they show Isabel doing whatever she wants, all day every day, without anyone telling her what to do. Young people look at Isabel’s life as the kind of life that they want to have, and they look at what Isabel is doing as something that they can copy, follow her example, do what she does. But what young people do not understand, is that the key ingredient in Isabel’s life is having wealthy parents.

        I will give a real-life example. A couple of my local male co-workers who are under 30 years old, they work 40-50 hours per week with me. Their parents own a working farm/ranch only a few miles away, that is over 500 acres. My male co-workers grew up working on their parents’ farm. One of these male co-workers still lives on his parents’ farm, in his parents’ house. These two guys work with me, at a job, because farm work is hard, tiring, dirty, dangerous, difficult, low-paying work, that requires working all day. This 40-50 hour per week job working with me is less difficult, less tiring, less dangerous, and it pays much better than working on a farm.

        At my co-workers’ parents’ 500 acre working farm/ranch, there is no one frolicking every day, climbing the butte every day, swimming in the creek every day, running and yelling across the fields every day, unless they have just cut their hand or arm off in a piece of farm equipment. On a working farm/ranch, where people actually survive ranching and farming, there is too much work to do for people to be running around playing. To put it another way, if you worked all day on a working farm/ranch doing everything that needed to be done, it would take you from sun-up to sun-down doing everything that needed to be done.

        On my co-workers parents’ farm, if their teen-age or older kid isn’t wanting to do farm work every day, all day long, then that kid has to get a job working somewhere else, because everybody has to work. If their teen-age kid works on the farm, they will be provided with food, clothing, a beat-up vehicle to drive, and maybe a little spending money. If their kids want more, nicer clothes, a better vehicle, then they have to get a job working someplace else.

        To summarize, young people should not be led to believe that dropping out of college, travelling, and working as a waitress or waiter is going to provide enough money to build a tiny-house, where a person can do whatever they want all day long, every day, without anyone telling them what to do. It costs at least $15K to build a tiny-house, not including the price of the land. On a working farm/ranch where people actually earn their living by farming, adults have to work all day long every day in order to get everything done, it is not a life of recreation and leisure at all. Do Not try to copy what Isabel is doing, the key ingredient is that Isabel has wealthy parents who bought the land, had a water-well, had an electric service, had a truck, had construction tools, helped Isabel in building her tiny-house, helped her plant her garden, and her parents do not earn their living from farming. Isabel’s parents can and do help Isabel when something goes wrong.

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  18. she just wrote a book about something she’s passionate about, and something she’s very good at. In less than 2 days she’s got more than a quarter million views. almost half a million followers and probably bringing in enough money to build 40 of those little cabins every year. she looks happy and healthy!

    i feel so sorry for people who spend their lives obsessing over others, even to the point of imagining stuffing her in a tire at the top of a mountain and visualizing her rolling down to her death. dude, maybe get a life. i am sorry you have to work hard 40-50 hours a week. there are people suffering all over the world, so many who could use the help, support and inspiration. Isabel isn’t one of them. good luck.

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    1. In reply to Annie Robbins,

      Maybe I should give up trying to point out that young people shouldn’t try to copy what Isabel Paige is doing.

      Go ahead young people, drop out of college, travel, work at low paying jobs, build a tiny-house in your parents’ back yard, make YouTube videos showing the good time you’re having, write a cook book, and you’re sure to be a success. I’ll watch your videos.

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  19. And I still don’t understand. So what? So what if she gets that help? She has said she worked hard, but never claimed she made all that money to build the tiny house,etc, alone. You know all that because she actually showed us and told us her family helped. Every young person can be tricked into thinking that it is easy to do anything they want. It’s up to them not to be tricked, not other people showing their work. Then almost every youtuber out there or anyone that posts their life online, shouldn’t be doing that, as you’re saying, since young people can be tricked by that. If they’re stupid, well, bad for them. They are to be accused of what decisions they make for their lives, not Isabel or any Isabel out there. There are so many rich people online posting their wealth and haven’t done a thing in their lives, yet you are accusing Isabel who at least “helps” her family make her dream life come true. Which I don’t believe, she has worked so much as well. You’re accusing her of not working from day to night , but if she’s rich,as you’re saying, does she really need to work more than she does? I don’t think they want to build the farm to just make money.

    I’m gonna say it again, it’s a bless to have supporting parents. In fact, when you decide to have a child, you’re supposed to guarantee them a bright future. You as a parent are responsible for their future life. If you’re not ready to take that responsibility then you are not ready to be a parent. Because you’re basically forcing a human being to come to this life and work hard to survive. It shouldn’t be that way. And even if you’re not rich (like Isabel’s parents, as you’re saying), then you should guide your child make a nice life. After you become an adult, of course you are responsible for your life choices and what your life will become, but it is really important your parents help you make a good start.

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    1. In reply to Jon,

      In my opinion, it is not O.K. to give other human beings incorrect information, erroneous information that will cause them problems. It is especially not O.K. to give young people and stupid people the wrong idea about something that they want to try for themselves, when you know that their failure will harm them.

      There was a young lady named Jasmine Cherry, who independent of me, without reading my blog article on Isabel Paige, made a YouTube video warning young people that what Isabel Paige was doing was not real-life, and to be careful not to try to do what Isabel was doing, because they could run into problems. Because so many people attacked Jasmine Cherry, Jasmine removed all of her YouTube videos.

      Jasmine Cherry decided that it was not worth it to her to try to warn other people about believing what they see on YouTube, because she was just going to get attacked for it, so why bother trying to help strangers.

      I will try to give an analogy. Enron was a Texas corporation founded in 1985 that was described as an energy company. By year 2000, Enron had 29,000 employees. Enron claimed revenues of nearly $101 billion during 2000. Fortune magazine named Enron “America’s Most Innovative Company” for six consecutive years.

      At the end of 2001, it was revealed that Enron’s reported financial profitability was a complete fraud, creatively planned and perpetuated for years and years, with the help of incompetent auditing by America’s largest accounting firm Arthur Anderson. By the end of 2001, both Enron and Arthur Anderson were out of business, all of their employees lost their jobs, and all of their investors lost all of their money. It was at that time, the biggest business scandal in the history of the United States.

      But keep in mind, for fifteen years, Enron and Arthur Anderson were held by many people as the gold standard in business, when they actually were the biggest fraudsters. The hundreds of thousands of people who believed and invested in them lost all of their money.

      So be careful who you believe in, especially if everyone talks about how great they are, without having done any checking or looking into what they are doing.

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  20. I do not believe that Isabel is giving any false information. Has she ever said that this life is easy?No, quite the opposite actually. Through her vlogs she mentions most of her struggles that come with living this life. Has she ever said that she and her family are gonna live off just the farm’s income? Nope. She maybe hasn’t told how rich they are,IF they are, but she never said farming is easy money. Has she urged anyone drop out of school or college? No, she just simply told her story and what worked best for her. She really can’t harm anyone. It is not her fault if one day I get up, sell my house, quit my job and go up in the mountains and decide to live in a selfmade small house and then die because I can’t survive. My parents and close people won’t blame Isabel, they’ll blame it on my mind going crazy.
    There are so many serious frauders out there that every one of us listens to everyday, like politicians and tv personalities, in marketing and banks, etc. Those ones are trully dangerous and really affect young people’s (and not only) lives and future. Not a girl that makes youtube videos vlogging her life.
    Anyways, I don’t think that this will end somewhere. To be honest, if you’re actually just worried for people getting harmed and not hating Isabel, I can understand it even though I can’t agree with you. Hope you have a good life and thank you for responding to my comments.

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  21. Does anyone else think this blog post is super fucked up? My question is who the hell has this much time on their hands to watch and stalk a young woman online and feel further inclined to be a fuggin’ creep ass to post about it? This kind of disgusting thinking is why women have to look over their shoulders, carry pepper spray, and feel forced to abide by the buddy system. Good Lord just leave her and other women alone. Why did I bother reading any of this?

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  22. Disgusting blog and down right creepy! Dude whoever you are, go get the help you need…

    Here is a beautiful intelligent girl working her butt off building and creating a life of her choice and having the courage to cinematicly take us along with her via Youtube. You have nothing better to do but create a spiteful and condescending and down right hurtful blog about someone you barely know.

    Take a step back and reflect on your life and im sure you wouldn’t even have half the guts to do what Isabell is doing or trying to create….or maybe thats the issue, you cant so you bring other people down into your sorry, sad little world, sitting behind a computer screen.

    I feel truely sorry for you. Whilst Isabell is screaming from the mountains your screaming on the inside and we can all see it… get help fast!

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    1. In reply to Concerned Human #2,

      If you read fiction and non-fiction from different periods in history, there have always been authors who recount their own personal travels and adventures, or write about the travels and adventures of other people. Herman Melville wrote the novels “Moby Dick” and “Typee” which centered around sailing, he had been a sailor himself. Mark Twain, a.k.a. Samuel Clemens, wrote about life and adventures on the Mississippi River, he had been a river boat captain himself on the Mississippi River. “The Waltons” television series was created from a book by Earl Hamner Jr. who based what he wrote on his life in rural Virginia during The Great Depression.

      What Isabel is showing, is not the life of a man working as a sailor and sailing the South Seas, or the life of a man growing up within a large poor family struggling through the Great Depression, but what Isabel is showing is an adult woman camping out in her parents’ back yard. Please take a few minutes to reflect on the admiration, praise, and importance that you give to someone who shows you their life living in a shed in their parents’ back yard.

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    2. Thank you for those words, Concerned human. Isabel is a beautiful human being, working hard and being a wonderful inspiration to so many. But some people just can’t handle when a woman succeeds like that.

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      1. In reply to Carina,

        In my opinion, Isabel is going to be the Enron of YouTube. Isabel receives so much praise, and congratulations on her “accomplishments”, but what has she accomplished? Her father did most of the work in building a playhouse for Isabel in his backyard, where Isabel lives and doesn’t have a job, after dropping out of college. “But some people just can’t handle when a woman succeeds like that.” All women should drop out of college, and get their father to build them a playhouse in the backyard for them to live in, now that’s a successful woman.

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      2. “Name withheld” doesn’t have a place to reply to his response to my last comment, only to “like”, which I can’t do, sorry. So I’ll write here, I’m sure he will read.
        So, Mr. Dickinson, you are assuming that there is only one way to be successful and happy, which is going to college and get a “normal” job. Also, you can’t even imagine a farm without animals, which speaks volumes to me about how stuck you are in your own little world.
        You must be blind if you can’t see all the talent Isabel has, and how she succeeds at everything she does. I have no worries about her future, whatsoever, except her having to deal with all the jealousy and misogony in this world. But she can handle that too, I know.
        When I was young I too did not want to go to college, but decided to travel instead. I worked my way around the world, and have never regretted it for a second. Those were invaluable years of learning experience. I also have the drive to learn how to make things from scratch, build my own homes, etc. so I recognize myself in Isabel, and love to watch her learn all these survival skills.
        When I was ready I went to college and got my Masters degree in a subject that I truly enjoy, and at a time when I was mature enough to know that. This was in my early forties. I love how my life turned out and am very happy I followed my heart. Love to see Isabel do the same, and it’s also wonderful to see how her family supports her in all this. If you weren’t so fearful and narrowminded maybe you could benefit from it as well.

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  23. I think Isabel Paige needs to be given a bit of a break here…

    She is a young woman finding out about life. She has put together a very good YouTube channel that shows what mountain life is like – and OK there is some artistic licence here or there but I see no harm in that. What comes across from her channel is how much enjoyment you can get out of rural life and its simple pleasures.

    Also, she seems to have (or have had) a job at a local farm Co-op and has also written and e-published a cookery book. And making YouTube content, in my opinion, is a job in itself and good on her for making a living from it if she can (there are plenty of others like her who are also earning an income from their channel).

    I have put together a post on her here:
    https://rainwaterrunoff.com/isabel-paige-moving-to-a-mountain-farm/

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    2. I’ve wrote on this blog before about Isabelle and am amazed by the various comments about her good and the bad.
      I said it before and I’ll say it again, she is a very fortunate girl to have the backing of her family, would her lifestyle been the same if she came from a poorer background?
      As someone said somewhere…she is a business woman and YouTube is her job….be it so she is skilful and creative.
      One quote that has stayed with me is ‘never volunteer any information ‘, and this applies to Isabelle… she only tells you what you need to hear.
      Is she really living ‘Off-Grid’??

      https://companies-number.com/wa/604747703-ISABEL-PAIGE-LLC

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  24. The comments here are so negative and come across as jealousy. She’s a nice young woman making her way in the world and living life simply and peacefully. She’s young- is there a problem with her parents helping her out and her living in a tiny house she built with her dad’s help on their land? I think she sends such a positive message for everyone and is very encouraging to live a healthy life and appreciate each day. My daughter and I watch her (they’re the same age) and we both feel positive after watching her and inspired. All good vibes. I think the world needs more Isabel out in it and I hope she continues to seek peace and a healthy, happy life. For those of you finding only negative things to say- I hope you will find happiness in your life and be inspired to take on anything because we all can do so much if we just try and put our minds to it. 💗

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  25. One last comment from me- questioning a young woman’s mental health because she’s having fun, being silly and just joyful- not cool. I like to have fun too and sometimes will do crazy things, just a release of happiness. Is that bad? Does that make me bipolar? Cruel and hurtful comments here and it just makes me sad to read other’s comments criticizing a sweet young person putting out only kindness and positivity. Really just mean spirited- you all need to reign that in and work on yourselves. Give yourself a little love and put some happy music on to get out of that funk. ☮️

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  26. Mr. Dickinson 58601, you have way too much free time on your hands. Why don’t you work on making your own life worthwhile instead of picking apart others?

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    1. In reply to luna,

      I have too much free time on my hands? I have worked at least 48 hours per week for the past four years straight at a real job, without missing a day of work, with no vacation, except taking two days occasionally to do maintenance work on my house in a different state. As compared to Isabel who does yoga in the morning, then takes a hike in the morning, then takes 1-2 hours to drink coffee and make something to eat, then goes to swim in the river, then goes to town, then another hike, then another 1-2 hours to make something to eat. On alternate days she might make a shelf. Now that’s free time. Why do I pick apart Isabel’s life? For one thing she makes videos of her life, and for another thing most of her viewers have not figured out that what Isabel is doing doesn’t add up. If her viewers tried this at home, they’d be broke within a few days, weeks, or months.

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  27. Whenever and whatever you read what someone has publicly written about their own life, whether that is on a blog, Vlog, Instagram or even Facebook, what you see is a teeny tiny sliver of a life, and usually with a positive bent – for instance, the description of the wonderful sunset dinner in Hawaii but certainly not the fight with the spouse that followed. On-line lives not being 100% authentic? That is a given.

    Making money on the internet by having a UTube channel, having ads, Like buttons, Patreon etc. is not, personally, my choice of making a living. But Isabel, and many, many other UTubers do it. Probably the hardest and most time consuming part of making these VLogs is the editing process and Isobel does a very, very good job of it. This is the part of her earning a living that you don’t see. Another UTuber whom I occasionally follow stated that editing one video can take up to 20 hours. What Isabel does not do is show that behind the scenes process. More power to her, because in VLogs where that is shown (some UTubers even show you their drone in action, or talk endlessly about the editing and how long it took) take away the impressive magic of the video. At least for me.

    And that is why I watch these. For the magic. For the ideas. And for take-aways that can add quality to my life.

    I will never understand why anyone gets pleasure out of picking someone apart, putting someone down. Why not take away something you have appreciated or learned? And if it does not resonate with you, your life or values, move on to something else.

    And thank you for pointing out that I was wrong about you having too much free time. I now see that you have too little. All the more sad that this is what you choose to do with it.

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    1. In reply to Luna,

      You do know that young women watch Isabel Paige or Hannah Lee Duggan, and say to themselves, I want to do that, I want to be like her? There are tens of thousands of young women who want to follow the example of Isabel Paige and Hannah Lee Duggan. What these people want to copy is what they see, what they are shown, what they are told.

      In the case of Hannah Lee Duggan for instance, two to three years ago when Hannah had less than 50K subscribers, she was showing her Ford van, her van build, traveling in her van, and at that same time Hannah was talking about and showing her Depop online clothing store.

      Two to three years ago Hannah was also showing her beautiful loft apartment with its own private outdoor deck overlooking a lake. Her young viewers were shown, and probably believed that Hannah’s lifestyle of having a beautiful apartment, customizing her van, and travel, was funded by such things as her Depop online clothing store where she purchased items at thrift stores, then sold them on the internet.

      If a person ever looked at how much time and money was spent on driving to various thrift stores, sorting through and trying on clothes, modeling these clothes and photographing them to make a listing, dealing with buyers, packaging and shipping, a person would see that even if Hannah sold ten items per week at $30 per item, that’s $300 in sales, but her fuel and and cost to buy these items was $150. Her net profit was $150, but with driving, shopping, listing, and shipping, she had 20 hours into it, which euals $7.50 per hour for her work.

      So how could Hannah afford this lifestyle? One reason was that her very beautiful loft apartment was in the top floor of her mother and stepfather’s house. Hannah said in one of her videos that her apartment was very expensive. Really? Were her stepfather and her mother who is an attorney really forcing Hannah to pay more money for rent than Hannah could afford, with the threat of eviction hanging over her head?

      My point is this, tens of thousands of young women want to do what Hannah and Isabel show in their videos, to live how they live. Most young women viewers were under the impression that Hannah made her living from her Depop online clothing sales (about $7.50 per hour for 20 hours per week) and Isabel working at a farmer’s market (about $8-$9 per hour for 20 hours per week).

      Why didn’t Hannah and Isabel make it very clear that they were living at their parents’ house? One reason was that young women love the idea of being independent, being out on their own, believing that they can support themselves. Another reason was that it was a boost to Hannah’s and Isabel’s self-esteem to portray that they were completely self-supporting.

      But if Hannah and Isabel really cared about their young women viewers, they would have made it very clear that they were living at their parents’ house, so that other young women would know that it is kind of necessary to do this, don’t you dare think that you could survive on your own away from home on $150-$180 per week.

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      1. You are really are on demented creep my god. You say you work nearly 50 hours a week and so what you must do in your free time is what is called stalking. Looking up where they live on Google Earth and finding their parents’ names and occupations. You are seriously a psychopath. I hope for Hannah’s, Isabel’s, and any other femaie Youtuber you watch that they take their viewers’ advice to stay safe from YOU. You give Isabel safety advice but then describe how you found out intimate details of her life that she has not shared and then put them on blast on the internet so others can copy your research and find our that info as well?

        You are clearly jealous of how free Hannah and Isabel are to do what they wish with their time and are not stuck working 50 hours a week with no vacation. Sounds like maybe you need to work harder so you can achieve their level of freedom! I applaud both these girls fo using their resources such as their parents and family to create a life they thoroughly enjoy. Their idea of a good life is what they show online which can be different from yours. Your idea of what someone’s life should look like is not what everyone else thinks. And frankly. i believe Isabel, Hannah, and other Youtubers of their kind became people because others want to live like them and now how they currently do, which I bet is pretty similar to yours. If you think they are not the norm, then you are very wrong.

        A farm does not need to have animals on it, and even though it doesn’t, Isabel has never stated she doesn’t plan to get animals. I know you’ve watched all her new videos due to your stalker habits, so tell me again how she can not sustain on her farm? Her farm looks to be absolutely blossoming. Maybe you have daddy issues and are so bitter about that that you can’t help but be jealous and mad at others who have a loving family who is more than happy to help her fulfill her dreams and passions. Not everyone needs to go to college. Look at Steve Jobs and Bill Gates. They have two of the biggest companies in the World and no college degree.

        What a disgusting, hateful person you are to spread this negativity about a girl who is simply showing her daily living to us for free. So what if she does make $200k/year from Youtube? She did that all by herself and should be accomplished. Whether you think it is fake or not, the fact you put this much analysis into a young female’s life is actually grotesque. Get a better life so you don’t have the need to slam others for theirs because of your misogyny, jealousy, and downright creepiness.

        You are entitled to disagree with her lifestyle but you keep making points about why Isabel’s life is wrong and should not be idolized that have already been address by her, some multiple times, but you must have missed those parts when you were stalking her videos right? She shows the downside of living where she does, she has stated she lives on her parents’ land, she has shown her getting help and that she didn’t build the tiny house on her own. You have to be a very special person to be able to do that. I’d like to see you try to do what she has done.

        Overall, maybe listen to the other people here that are clearly stating that this post is INCREDIBLY CREEPY and no doubt will be used in some law enforcement case in the future.

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      2. In reply to youareajoke,

        There probably isn’t much point in me trying to respond to your comments, because you are not very intelligent and you can not see what is right in front of your nose. Maybe someone else who reads this comment will catch on.

        Isabel Paige and Hannah Lee Duggan both began uploading videos of their lives to YouTube several years ago. Note that they were videoing their actual real lives, not a movie with a script, actors, and movie set. The interest that viewers had, if they had any interest, was where is that location, where is that being filmed, where is this person, what is that house/lake/beach/river/mountain in the background, who is this person, what do they do for a living, are they married, are they single?

        Isabel Paige and Hannah Duggan did this to themselves, trying to catch and maintain viewers interest by videoing their actual lives. They can’t have it both ways, showing their personal daily lives each week in videos uploaded to YouTube, and then expect for people to not have any interest or curiosity about their lives.

        Another thing that Isabel Paige and Hannah Duggan did to themselves by uploading videos of their personal daily lives to YouTube, having the expectation that only good boys and girls will watch their videos, they didn’t understand that bad people, criminal people, mentally ill people, and unwanted people will also watch their videos.

        I wrote my blog post articles, a few commentors pointed out how easy it is to find Isabel Paige’s and Hannah Duggan’s personal information and location on the internet, but what Isabel, Hannah, their families, and their viewers don’t understand is that the real danger will come from the people who truly, genuinely, seriously are putting a plan together, researching, conducting surveillance, writing down everyone’s schedule & routine, testing alertness of neighbors and targets, planning routes, planning diversions, …meanwhile Isabel, Hannah, and their families are aloof.

        Local Law Enforcement may have already told Isabel’s mother and father, “Well, yeah, if your daughter is going to have thumbnails of her YouTube videos showing her naked and bathing in the river beside the highway, you’re going to get some men trying to find her.” But an experienced detective, investigator, or agent would probably know to tell Isabel’s and Hannah’s parents, “Look, your family has more money than most, your daughters are able to travel and pursue hobbies that most people can’t. You should think about and consider enjoying your lives more privately. You can still do all of the things that you enjoy, but you don’t have to advertise it, and rub other people’s face in it. When we investigate a kidnapping, a home invasion, a burglary, we usually find that the victims were almost advertising what they had, drawing attention to themselves, that is why we always give the advice to people to try to keep the things in their life private. If you blab all over Facebook about the long cruise you’re taking, your house may get robbed when you are gone. If you talk a lot about your husband’s firearm collection, coin collection, gold & silver at the beauty parlor or country club, you may be the victim of a home invasion. If your daughters show themselves lounging around in the open wearing little or no clothing, they may be the victim of sexual assault.”

        On the one hand, Isabel’s and Hannah’s viewers want to deride me, but I am not the unseen unknown person who is working out a plan to kidnap Isabel or Hannah. On the other hand, I wouldn’t be surprised if Isabel or Hannah doesn’t want to be kidnapped so that they can receive more attention.

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  29. Excellent blog, if for nothing else but pointing out how fake the whole Isabel Paige YouTube channel and most similar channels are. Her parents seem to be well-off, and hopefully she’ll have them to fall back on in years to come, otherwise she’ll have to start thinking about staying alive in the not so distant future. She already has nothing new to offer her subscribers. The channel has run its course.

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    1. In reply to Leo Penaws,

      I agree with what you wrote in your comment, especially that Isabel is running out of things to show. If Isabel built off of her current success, she would get married, move into a normal house, and begin having children, but then that would make her just the same as her ordinary viewers: doing laundry, cooking & cleaning, watching children, going to Walmart every day or every other day to buy all of the consumer goods that her family was using.

      About the only other thing that Isabel Paige and Hannah Lee Duggan have left to maintain the interest of viewers, is to be a victim or suffer some kind of tragedy: a stalker, a physical assault, property burning down, life-threatening injury or illness.

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  31. This thread is really weird. Her videos are great.

    Just watch her videos, if you like them. It’s TV, there’s no requirement for it to be real. She’s an adult, let her manage her personal safety. It’s not your job.

    If you don’t like her videos, just change the channel. Anything else makes you something between a moaner or a really worrying stalker. Remember, most stalkers don’t see themselves as stalkers!

    Love you all 🙂

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    1. In reply to Colin,

      According to your comment, what you are saying is that no one is allowed to disagree with Isabel Paige or criticize Isabel Paige.

      I will say it for the fifteenth time, I think that it is wrong to give young people the idea that they can drop out of college, work at a low-paying job for a year, go buy some acreage of expensive mountain property beside a river, build a tiny-house by themselves, spend their days at leisure, all funded by a waitress job and working part-time at a seasonal retail job.

      Most young people will not realize it until their 40s or 50s, that their life could have been so much better overall, if they would have at least completed their Associates Degree with a high enough GPA to continue college later; gone to trade school to be an auto mechanic, heavy equipment mechanic, welder, auto-body repair; worked an apprenticeship as an electrician or heavy equipment operator; joined the merchant marine. All of these things with a little bit of dedication when you are young lead to the ability to buy your own home, buy whatever transportation you want, pay for your health insurance, take vacations, save for retirement, pay for your hobbies.

      I really, really hate it when some of the women commentors have been leaving comments lately saying that they think that it is good that Isabel Paige is “using her parents as a resource”. Why can’t you people understand that not all parents can afford to continue supporting their children into their 20s, 30s, 40s? Or understand that parents would like to slow-down, downsize, reduce their cost of living, reduce their expenses as they reach retirement age, not have to support their adult children? I guess you understand, but you don’t give a shit.

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      1. You are creepy as hell dude…..Think maybe the authorities should be alerted of a stalker…..Seems to me you are the one planning and making an excuse….Your mind is disturbed and you talk like a true creeper and predator….

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      3. You are a predator and stalker…..It is so so clear to see…..Old, demented creep..Maybe authorities should be notified once you your true identity is known.

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      4. In reply to Ryan,

        Ryan, I have had another dream or vision, not about the Egg Man and his friends bringing a tire to Isabel’s property, wanting to climb the mountain with her and the tire. No this is a different dream/vision: I see a tall man, with long scraggly hair, and he is trying to stick something in Isabel’s ass. It may be too late to save Hannah Lee Duggan, but you can save Isabel! You must go to her now!, immediately, there is no time to lose!

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  32. Whoever wrote this “article” seems like a real creep. I am not a huge fan of Isabel but I am glad she’s able to make videos and get sponsorship for this videos. I don’t feel as though she has been deceptive in how she has represented her existence on her family’s property. She shows her family stopping by all the time. She also has said that she crashes at her parent’s house in the city when the weather is especially bad in the winter. I live in a rural area also and, although it may be hard for some people to believe, narrow driveways can be plowed. We do it all winter here in Maine…I’m sure that people in Washington have the same “mad skills” as we do here. I’d be willing to bet that real North Dakota residents know all about snow plows and 4 wheel drive…

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  34. youtube.com/watch?v=QwoKc2AXezs

    (appears to be a link to YouTube video from Jasmine Cherry regarding Isabel Paige and threats/harassment)

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  35. I live the vanlife, I love watching Isabel hand weave her own blankets and cook food that she has grown herself.
    Living an unconventional life is hard, but the rewards far out weigh it.
    I wish I had the karisma and talent Isabel has. I would make a big buck too!
    Instead I alternate seasonal work with travel, spending time enjoying our big beautiful world and getting to know others living the same nomadic way of life.
    I found myself because of YouTubers like Hanna and Isabel.
    I am happier than I have ever been. Sorry if that does not fit your narrative.

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  36. Just woke up from a 3 day nap after binge watching Isabel and Hannah videos and my only disappointment is with myself for losing so many days to these two.
    I was glued until I wasn’t, and I cannot bear to listen to another echoing cup of fluids being poured into an oversized earthenware vessel that needs to be clenched
    with two hands just
    drink the fucking coffee and has anyone even bothered suggesting to each of them they should be using a french press? You can’t get a better cup of coffee and paper filters
    are just wasteful.
    Their trip together was so cringe and I had to stop watching altogether after seeing a few of Isabel’s other videos. She’s this like, wannabe little feral mountain sprite and that laugh, fuck,
    drive scissors through my ears already. If you watch the trip from Isabel’s perspective it seems as though Hannah feels the same as I do! Very awkward. I would have tossed her
    out of my van after maybe 90 minutes.
    Hannah’s so much more interesting, I feel. Maybe because she talks more than Isabel.
    With Isabel you get a bunch of crisp sounding sounds peeking through the spa music and
    laughing, like maybe her laughing wouldn’t be so friggin annoying if her nose weren’t so inflamed does she have a deviated septum? Did she dance herself into a tree? I refuse to
    watch another second.
    But Hannah talks more and her personality is just different, she doesn’t just run around screaming wanting to hug wind like feral mountain sprite does.
    Hannah kinda reminded me of watching Pippi Longstocking(1988) as a kid and wanting to live in an a big old house that I got to fix up
    with a pet horse and monkey and have adventures together. She sorta resembles Pippi when she wears those apron things, too, maybe that’s why. I dunno, I just like her vibe. We probably wouldn’t have been BFFs in school but I’d hang out with her at parties. You can tell she was a model
    and only does these niche videos for the sponsorship and exposure. I don’t think she would still keep her van if signed by a larger agency.
    But yeah, all of these influencers are the same and most were either models or former reality/game show losers.
    They figured out the solo female traveler trend has peaked and they’re all on the vanwagon! Whatever you gotta do to get by, right?
    In 3 years when all the dumb pinsters are done playing house in their barbie campers I will finally be able to afford a pretty sweet used one of my own because there’s no way they’re
    putting any mileage on these things they are just parking them and hitting REC.

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    1. In reply to Hello Again,

      We take it for granted, the term “The Bell Curve”, which I believe originated from a study in the 1940s-1950s wherein it was discovered that if the intelligence of individuals within the United States was plotted on a graph, it would resemble a “Bell”. On the horizontal axis which represents increasing intelligence, and the vertical axis which represents numbers of people, there are a small number of people with extremely low intelligence, the vast majority of people are at “100 IQ”, and then there are a small number of people as the graph moves beyond “120 IQ”.

      Somehow, I don’t know how, Isabel Paige resonates with the “100 IQ” people. Well, maybe I do know how & why. Isabel dropped out of college, worked as a waitress, then quit working at a job altogether, lives in her parents’ home or her parents’ backyard, plays around all day. The “100 IQ” people constantly leave comments saying how “Successful” and “Independent” Isabel is, totally not realizing that dropping out of college, not having a job, living in your parents’ backyard in a shed is the Exact Opposite of being “Successful” or “Independent”.

      Regarding Hannah Lee Duggan, I think that Hannah never does have close or lasting friendships with anyone for two main reasons. Reason #1 is that Hannah is very self-centered and selfish. Reason #2 is that Hannah can’t be around other people without being affected by them, partly because she is too sensitive, and partly because she is weak.

      In my opinion, Hannah couldn’t spend much time around poor people, sick people, fat people, ugly people, old people, uneducated people, stupid people, handi-capped people, developmentally disabled people, or children because they would all make her feel uncomfortable, because she is too sensitive and too weak. I think that she knows this within herself, her mother and sister know it, but Hannah would not want to admit this out loud to anyone else.

      In my opinion, Hannah can not work at most jobs due to her being uncomfortable around people, nor live in high-density housing. She can only tolerate people for short periods of time, and only with the ability to exit from people if necessary. In a way, this video clip is how Hannah sees/deals with the world https://youtu.be/jMTT0LW0M_Y

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      1. I’m not sure I agree with your opinion of Hannah, Or maybe you
        see something that I don’t, because my likeness to her prevents me
        from seeing her flaws. I don’t see her as weak, or sensitive.
        I see her as protective of her inner space. Only allowing entry if there’s an available exit. I can jive with that.
        I think what makes her uncomfortable though isn’t poor
        people, or sick people, or fat people, or ugly people, or old people, or uneducated
        people, or stupid people, or handi-capped people or developmentally disabled people, or children but having to fake it in a world full of people that are nothing like ourselves. And that makes us selfish.
        The low tolerance for people is inner aggravation stemming from the inablity to find another co-habiter with similar
        habits and thought processes resulting in feelings of inadequacy, frustration and guilt from an unrealized
        superiority complex. When you think about it though, measuring our personal happiness by the approval of others is a bi-polar coaster of emotion on both ends of the spectrum and in the end a complete waste of time and adrenaline.

        Humans are naturally self-centered, I feel. Some spend half their
        lives in kicked-dog syndrome and some spend the other half blaming everyone
        else for their problems instead of their inablity to make sound decisions.
        As an almost middle aged white woman, moving to the woods with no experience
        or skill is not a sound decision. Neither is it successful, brave nor independent or any of those
        things the “100 IQ” people pretend to see.
        I watch Isabel’s videos and I feel very uncomfortable. It’s soft-core
        porn for all the miserable women like the ones out where you are
        that you frequently mention, blindly seeking out the ideal they so desperately want to see in themselves.

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      2. In reply to Hello Again,

        As an example of some insight into Hannah Lee Duggan, in one of her videos where she had recently completed some improvements to the bathroom in her cabin, she planned and culminated everything by cooking spaghetti for HERSELF, filling her bathtub with water, and sitting naked in her bathtub, with her spaghetti and laptop computer on a bathtub tray, eating spaghetti, while filming all of this, exclaiming that this was the happiest that she has ever been, and she meant it.

        Can you stop and realize that what made Hannah so ecstatic with happiness was doing things for herself, being by herself, celebrating by herself? Can you see that her ultimate goal is to please herself, and nothing besides pleasing herself has any importance for her?

        Many adult people envision that the most happiness they could achieve, would be something like: Raising a family with their husband; Operating a farm with their husband and children; The day that their little girl gets married; The day that their little girl graduates from medical school; The day that their son starts as quarterback for the college they had played for; The day that they were able to give the keys to their father to the 1970 Camaro he had sold thirty years ago.

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  37. Goodness. Cant believe someone actually wrote in such length talking about other youtubers do with their content. Totally waste of time reading ur shit.

    Unless you are jealous of her shit there is absolutely no reason someone like you would write in detail.

    If you can do it better than her shit, just do it.

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      2. In reply to Emma Dick,

        Isabel Paige and her father built a Tiny-House on a trailer frame with wheels, about 200 feet from her parents’ house. You wrote in a previous comment, that if I could do what Isabel Paige does, better than Isabel Paige, why don’t I go do this? I replied to your comment, why would I want to live in a shed in my parents’ backyard? You replied, “Because you’re a dick.” Wait, what? What does that make Isabel Paige? “Get a real job”. I am the one with a job.

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  38. I first posted to you before I logged in but I can’t reply up there probably because we are discussing Hannah in your Isabel entry and you want me and others to stay on course but can’t you stop to realize she is ecstatic with happiness BECAUSE she cooked spaghetti for herself? Did all of those other things FOR HERSELF? Of course she is pleased, she didn’t need to rely on anyone else for her happiness. She gave it to herself.
    Sofia Loren ate a ton of spaghetti and nobody ever gave her any shit for it. I myself enjoyed a lovely steaming plate of Bucatini earlier and I was very pleased with myself for having created something all by myself that didn’t suck which I found satisfying. Having to eat it alone on the other hand was an unfortunate side effect, not the intended goal.

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    1. In reply to dirtgirl,

      Regarding your comment about Hannah Lee Duggan, “….Did all of those other things FOR HERSELF? Of course she is pleased, she didn’t need to rely on anyone else for her happiness. She gave it to herself.” “SHE DIDN’T NEED TO RELY ON ANYONE ELSE FOR HER HAPPINESS”. Did you know, that over one year before Hannah Lee Duggan announced with joy that she had just purchased 15 acres with two cabins on it, THAT HER MOTHER ALREADY OWNED THIS PROPERTY?!

      Fuck No!, Hannah Lee Duggan didn’t tell all her viewers that her mother had purchased this 15-acre property with two cabins on it, over one year before “Hannah bought it”. For a whole bunch of reasons, I wanted to find out more about Hannah Lee Duggan, and I found out her mother’s name, her stepfather’s name, and so forth. I found out by looking up her mother, and her mother’s address, that what Hannah had been referring to in her videos as an expensive apartment that she was renting, was actually a living quarters inside Hannah’s mother’s home where she lived with her husband, and that the property with cabins that Hannah bought, had been purchased by her mother over one year earlier.

      This kind of thing makes other women feel bad, because they can’t understand why they work, yet can’t afford to do the things that Hannah and Isabel do.

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      1. Hahaha why so angry? I’m agreeing with you! I’m sorry I don’t want to waste anymore time on this but that’s exactly why she’s so ecstatic! Because she was able to do something for herself, I should have added ‘for a change’ but who cares? Seriously, it’s all fake. All of these girls are fake. Everything’s fake. Life is fake. If anything you should be angry with the low IQ folks who actually think this shit is real.

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  39. I think it’s great you’ve started this dialogue here. Constructive criticism has always played an important part in almost every field of interest in the past, especially in creative endeavors like the arts (painting, literature, etc.). But lately, with the rise of social media, a low brow, reactive, thin-skinned online environment has developed.where people have lost (or perhaps never had) appreciation for thoughtful criticism’s role as a bringer of balance and further clarification to an otherwise one-sided view of a topic or work of an individual. In other words, people get attacked and chastised for questioning any content they come across, and not praising it effusively instead. This might work in a totalitarian society, but not in a democracy.

    It doesn’t feel good when someone points out the flaws in what one is doing. Video content creators no doubt want to feel that they’ve covered all their bases on a topic. Egos get bruised. But does constructive criticism necessarily qualify as “hate” toward the content creator? Is it too difficult to get past one’s bruised ego to see it as merely a dialogue that further explores aspects of the topic presented? I think the extent to which uploaders consider the beneficial nature of the constructive criticism they receive, will often determine the insight they gain in how to improve the quality of their content, insight they may or may not have arrived at on their own.

    The whole purpose of a comment section under a video, or on a blog like this one, is to provide an opportunity for comment. Comments aren’t obligated to be flattering. Yet, in the current social media environement, any comment that is not fawning, applauding, and somehow patting the uploader gets ubiquitously thrown in the same basket and labeled as “hate” for some reason, rather than considered on its own merit, and examined for any value it may hold to extend the dialogue of the content. So, again thanks for having the courage to buck the tide of sycophancy that is so ubiquitous to social media these days, and create this dialogue here.

    As regards Isabelle Keller, better known by her limited liabilty corporation’s dba name, “Isabel Paige,” I came across this video in which the uploader humbly offers Isa, as she calls her, constructive tips for how Isabelle could do her beekeeping in a sustainable fashion. She points out some interesting characteristics of the ecosystems that best support bees, and how Isabelle’s techniques and approaches are not quite in harmony with those best practices. Isabelle would do well to further research this uploader’s claims, and apply what she learns, if she is truly as committed to sustainability as she says she is, and if she is even still interested in beekeeping at this point (she may have lost interest by now, I haven’t checked).

    https://youtu.be/ho8Tzi81xEc

    Is this “hate,” or is this part of an intelligent dialogue about a complicated topic, where mature individuals are welcomed to participate in a constructive give-and-take of thoughts? You decide. And by extension, the next time you have a knee-jerk reaction to “defend” your idol or hero from what *you perceive* to be an attack against them, stop and examine your own perceptions. Examine whether your hero even needs your protection, or more interestingly, why you think they do. Maybe the commentary, while not flattering (and not needing to be, really) is in reality helpful in some way, and your hero has the agency and intelligence to respond to them herself if she chooses to.

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    1. In reply to guest,

      In some instances, when I first saw a YouTuber and took an interest in their videos, looked up information about them to try to find out who this person was and what this person was like, and later wrote a blog post article about them, I didn’t necessarily dislike this person or think that they were doing anything wrong. Some examples of these YouTubers are “Piper Blush”, “Nika Banana”, “IRL Rosie”.

      The YouTuber who I wrote about, initially not having too much criticism of her, who was least tolerant of anyone writing anything about her at all, was “Prepper Princess”. Prepper Princess made a retaliation video about me, which insinuated many bad and criminal things about me, in an attempt to incite other people to try to harm me. Initially I received many threats of violence against me, from people who never checked to see that I had never been charged or accused of any crime. One mentally-ill person did try to attack me. This particular person had been teetering on not being able to function for the past several years, and as a result of being persuaded to attack me, they were involuntarily committed to a mental treatment facility, and lost what little they had. This retaliation video was taken down by YouTube.

      About one year ago, a YouTuber named “Jasmine Cherry” made a YouTube video that pointed out some not completely true information in Isabel Paige’s videos. Things like, Isabel wasn’t stating or showing that she had her parents’ house a couple hundred feet away which had hot-water, a full-bathroom, a kitchen, places to store her belongings. At first, Jasmine Cherry received so much hate mail for criticizing Isabel Paige, that Jasmine tried to clarify what she had meant to say, explaining that she wasn’t trying to attack Isabel Paige.

      Soon, Jasmine Cherry deleted all of her YouTube videos, and was gone from YouTube. No one knew until one year later, but one of Isabel Paige’s “followers”, had found out where Jasmine Cherry lived, and had taken photographs of Jasmine Cherry’s home, where she shopped, where she visited in her community, and made a threat to Jasmine, showing Jasmine these photographs that they had taken. Jasmine gave all of this information to the Police, and the Police conducted an investigation, because the lengths that this person had gone to, following Jasmine around the town where she lives, in retaliation and threat for Jasmine Cherry making a YouTube video criticizing Isabel Paige. You can now go to Jasmine Cherry’s YouTube channel to see a video explaining what had happened to her.

      My biggest criticism of Isabel Paige, Hannah Lee Duggan, and some other “Van-Life”, “Tiny-House”, “Traveling Bohemian” YouTubers, is that they are giving hundreds of thousands of young people the idea that you don’t need to have career plans when you get out of high school, you don’t need to go to college, you can work at a low-paying job, build a tiny-house, or live in a van and travel. What these YouTubers don’t disclose, is that they have wealthy parents who have given them money, provided them with things, are assisting them, and are serving as a safety-net ready to help their children or bail them out of trouble at any time.

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  40. Btw, the “you” I refer to in the first few paragraphs is this blog’s writer, and the “you” in the last paragraph refers to people feeling the need to “defend” and somehow protect Isabelle from commenters who offer constructive criticism of Isabelle or her content. I didn’t think that distinction was clear when I reread what I wrote, after sending it. Thanks.

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  41. I came across Hannah soon after she started living on her property. I have heard her say that her payments are $300 a month, much less than she paid for her apartment. So even though the apartment was on her parent’s property, she did pay rent, and she may be purchasing her current property from her mother, Conract for Deed, who knows. I have been impressed with Hannah’s willingness first to take on two cabins in need of repairs in order to be liveable, and her ability and resourcefulness in tackling tasks. She does have a knack for making a space inviting and pleasing to the eye. I like her choice of music, and many of her videos include stunning scenery, although I do wonder how many of those shots are taken—a drone perhaps? A lot of Hannah’s DIY stuff is inspiring and encouraging.

    I found Isabel’s content soon after and have admired her carpentry skills in building her Tiny House, although I was never under the impression that she had built it entirely on her own. It took me a while, but pretty soon I realized that Isabel’s house was on family property. But that doesn’t take away from the fact that she is an accomplished young woman in many ways. I appreciate seeing her industriousness in wanting a blanket or jacket, and starting from scratch spinning wool, weaving the fabric and then creating her completely handmade blanket and jacket. Pretty remarkable. It’s also heartening to see someone make nutritious meals, and this summer, using vegetables grown in the family garden. Again, sharing a garden space in no way diminishes all the hard work it takes to grow your own food. And she has produced a cookbook of her favorite foods.

    I too have been uncomfortable at times watching their videos, some which can come across as suggestive. This is concerning for safety reasons. And now I am sounding like the mother and the grandmother that I am. However, in this age of influencers, if someone puts themself out there, they need to be prepared to receive criticism as well as praise, although I can’t help but think one needs to be at the very least an extreme extrovert or at the most an exhibitionist to consider attemping to earn a living by courting followers. Unfortunately, the distressing downside to social media is the hate it can foster, most likely encouraged by its annonymity. There’s a difference between criticism and character assassination. There is no need for personal attacks, and in fact it is a criminal offense to threaten an individual, despite their choosing to make their life public. Jasmine Cherry looks and sounds like a reasonable person, and certainly did not deserve the threats she received. I have to admit just becoming aware of her controversy though, my first thought was to wonder who had made her the influencer police. Perhaps a better approach would have been to choose kindness over criticism, and acceptance over judgment. I think we could all use a little more compassion in our lives and focus on our common humanity. Just some of my musings after getting caught up in this thread.

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    1. In reply to Starshine,

      There are approximately 10,000 men under the age of 30 years, who frame an entire 3,000 square foot home, every four to eight weeks, up to maybe ten homes per year. Yet women marvel at Isabel Paige or Hannah Lee Duggan taking two days to put up shelves inside a house. The amount of praise that women lavish upon Isabel Paige or Hannah Lee Duggan for chopping wood for 60 seconds on camera, “They’re so resourceful!”, when hundreds of thousands of men and boys have been chopping wood this past year in the U.S. and Canada.

      I am calling bullshit on a lot of this, because it is bullshit. Something that I have not mentioned yet, in order not to cause Isabel Paige and Hannah Lee Duggan problems, is that in 90% of the U.S., City Government, County Government, County Health Department, EPA, will sooner or later, usually sooner, find fault with ANY STRUCTURE THAT HAS BEEN BUILT WITHOUT ALL REQUIRED PERMITS, ALL CONSTRUCTION HAS BEEN INSPECTED, and ALL PERMITS HAVE BEEN SIGNED OFF AS COMPLYING WITH BUILDING CODE.

      The way that Isabel Paige may have been able to get around building her Tiny-House without a required County Permit for a Building Structure with Foundation, Framing, and Roof Plan, Electrical Inspection, Plumbing Inspection, Septic Inspection, is because the structure is less than 10’x12′, or that it is on wheels, as if it were mobile. I have calculated the approximate weight of Isabel Paige’s Tiny-House that was constructed in the manner of house framing, not nominal 2″x2″ wood framing and fiberglass or tin used in trailer construction, and I don’t see how the weight of Isabel’s Tiny-House is not way over the weight capacity of two conventional 3,500 lb capacity trailer axles.

      ( Approx. 44 linear feet of exterior wall x 90 lb per linear feet for exterior wall = 3,960 lbs. Plus 1,000 lb for the roof & framing, 1,000 lb for the floor & framing, and 1,000 lb for the steel trailer frame, gives a subtotal of 6,960 lbs, without yet including the weight of interior cabinets, interior walls, interior furniture, interior appliances & fixtures. )

      Normally, any Building Inspector could see what this was, a Tiny-House that may not be mobile just because it is on a couple of trailer axles. A Tiny-House constructed using conventional house framing, an occupied dwelling, with an outbuilding type electrical brought to it, primitive plumbing, and a couple of trailer axles underneath it, and it would be up to the Building Inspector’s discretion whether to object to this or not, because it could appear to the Building Inspector to be an attempt to skirt the rules for Building Permits being required for occupied dwellings.

      From a 2021 article titled “Tiny-Homes Aren’t Legal In Every State-Here’s Why”, regarding Tiny-Homes in Washington State, “For example, even though tiny homes aren’t ‘forbidden’ in Washington state, certain counties might impose legal building restrictions on houses that are considered full-time dwellings. According to Tiny Home Society, King County has previously stated that tiny homes must be legally built on concrete foundations.”

      In the case of Hannah Lee Duggan’s two cabins on her fifteen acres in Wisconsin, yes Wisconsin, I wonder how or if these two cabins were permitted. I believe that one of the cabins has some indoor plumbing, and the other cabin does not. From some of the things that I have seen in these two cabins, it makes me wonder if any Building Inspections ever took place. The reason why I am bringing this up now, is I am sick and tired of Isabel Paige and Hannah Lee Duggan showing things in their YouTube videos, that most people would not be able to accomplish, not just because both Isabel and Hannah’s parents helped them, but for most people the Building Inspector would be all over them, shutting them down completely.

      Even in rural Idaho, when I began building a carport next to my twenty year old house, I received a Cease And Desist Stop Work Order from the County Building Inspector, stating that I needed a Building Permit, which required a set of construction plans, including an engineered foundation plan, electrical plan if electric was being sought, and calling for a series of inspections during phases of construction.

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  42. Wait the parents house is only a couple of hundred feet away???? She definitely said I was on the other side of the mountain or something that made me think farther.
    Anyway, I’m not too concerned with how rich she is, but I was wondering why Hannah -her best friend drove all that way and then she didn’t get to stay at the farm? I tried to post my theory in the comments, which is that Isabelle would be jealous of Hannah interacting with her boyfriend, because Hannah is so much more open and fun-loving and probably the boyfriend would like her. Before I could get a reply, the comment was deleted 😦
    Now I’m thinking maybe Isabelle didn’t want Hannah to know her parents lived next door? My first thought with Jasmine Cherry was maybe this blogger was her stalker since he found out about the addresses of the others, but he likes Jasmine, so hopefully not.

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    1. In reply to Concerned Citizen,

      If Isabel ever referred to her parents as living “over the mountain”, she may have been referring to her parents’ $2 million home in Seattle, to the west, over the mountains.

      Hannah Lee Duggan is probably not anywhere near to being Isabel’s best friend. I don’t even think that they even knew each other prior to a little more than one year ago when they became aware of each other through seeing each other’s YouTube videos.

      It wouldn’t surprise me at all, in fact I expect it, that Isabel would not want to invite Hannah to spend the night at Isabel’s Tiny-House. When one is in the privacy of their own Tiny-House, one can get a couple of one-gallon jugs of water, take off all of their clothes, get a couple of wash cloths, stand over a bath towel, and proceed to clean and wipe oneself off starting at ones’ head and working their way down, making sure to get their butt-crack, genitals, and feet. Then throw the very dirty wash cloths in a dirty clothes basket, and clean up the mess on the floor. You would kind of have to insist that your guest leave you in privacy for about 30 minutes while you wash yourself in the morning and at night, and if you were a proper host you would have to give this guest the same privacy in the morning and at night. Both embarrassing, and inconvenient to have a guest in a Tiny-House.

      Or, equally embarrassing to walk everybody the 200 feet or so to the parents’ house, for everyone to use the normal shower, hot water, and toilet at the parents’ house, when this is supposed to be “Isabel Paige’s Tiny-House Off-Grid Living”.

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      2. In reply to Bren,

        It’s strange that you would be telling me to “get a life”, I’m the one with a job, I’m not living in a shed in my parents’ backyard.

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  44. I’d like to say 2 things. If you have watched all of her videos, you would see that she has said it’s her parent’s farm many times, and you would have seen her living in the cabin there before the tiny house was ready to live in. The more important thing I’d like to say is that, from one piece of information provided on her site, along with information you provided here, I was able to find the location of the farm myself. I could not have done it without the information you provided, and therefore, if you care about her safety, then you should remove the information.

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    1. In reply to Pat,

      What I found out or realized, and what a few other male commentors realized from doing a Google search using Isabel’s name, is that her actual family name comes up. For anyone who has ever had to find out or look up someone for such things as employment background check, renter background check, debt collection, search for criminal record. locating someone for legal reasons, you follow whatever “leads” or tangential information you can get in order to create a box of information, kind of like a box of puzzle pieces that you can then try to put together. I can’t fix, alter, repair, or undo the fact that performing a Google search using Isabel’s name immediately results in obtaining almost every single puzzle piece. But I can bring attention, already did bring attention to the fact that anyone can do this, so that Isabel and her family are aware that it is not difficult to find Isabel’s location.

      What I have already tried to explain to you women at least once, is that Isabel and her family don’t need to be concerned about someone finding out where Isabel is located, that has already been done even before I called attention to it, you women just were not aware of it, because nobody said it or told you. The actual greater potential threat to Isabel, are the men who have become so determined to do something to her, that hey have begun trying to learn Isabel’s and her family members’ schedules, routine, habits, places frequented, etcetera.

      Here is an analogy, to try to explain why it no longer matters about people finding out where Isabel lives: Imagine that you are the mother of a 15-16 year old daughter, and you are worried about her having sex with her 16-17 year old boyfriend, Her boyfriend’s mother calls you on the phone and tells you, “Hey, you don’t have to worry about your teenage daughter having sex anymore, you need to worry about your teenage daughter becoming pregnant.”

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    1. In reply to Bren,

      I do not watch Isabel Paige videos anymore, except to occasionally see that the facade is crumbling, and that tens of thousands of under-achieving girls and women will have to find a new idol.

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      1. Of course it’s crumbling, when I saw her “garden” before the winter hit a few videos before it wasn’t even picked and most of the garden vegetables where dead and in the ground. Remember this was when she decided to “see her family” for a few weeks, when she knew that this crop needed to be pulled up.

        I think that she is making her money from the youtube channel and don’t truly want to do this crap anymore or at a bare minimum in order to keep subscribers. She probably went on vacation with her live in boyfriend (trust me he is in it for the money) and probably gave some money to the family also. It’s just a matter of time before we get video of her partying it up and drinking.

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      2. In reply to BuckQJohnson,

        Living “Off-Grid” and subsistence farming looks like the Homesteaders after the 1865 Land Grant Act, where farmers with 3-6 kids lived in a 10’x20′ one or two room shack, with a single wood stove for heating, a single potato for a meal if they were lucky, a single set of thread-bare tattered pants and shirt, a single pair of hand-me-down shoes, everyone being dirty all of the time with boils and blisters and body odor, an out-house for a toilet with old newspaper or a catalogue for toilet paper. Pretty much the same thing for share-croppers in the south. Why? Because they didn’t have any money.

        Glamorizing “off-grid”, “sustainable-living”, “organic farming” in a way that is not true, not reality, is hurting young people and low-intelligence people by leading them astray, leading them to believe in dropping out of college, quitting their job, that they can obtain “Abandoned Farm Land”, and build a tiny-house after working for a year or two as a waitress. That the life they can then lead after dropping out of college and quitting their job consists of morning yoga 30 minutes, morning coffee 30 minutes, morning hike and swim 1-1/2 hours, morning meal 1 hour, drive to town and shop 2-1/2 hours, afternoon hike and swim 1-1/2 hours, weed and pick herb leaves 1 hour, chop wood 1/2 hour, prepare and eat a meal 2 hours, write and sing a song 2 hours.

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  46. She’s Vegan, and yet your definition of a “farm” is one with animals on it? Doh.
    It’s clearly a small holding for growing lots of veg. Which the word farm stretches to. Get a life.

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  48. She’s leaving her farm, she talks about it on the video and also was showing stuff on her instagram. I knew it, I knew it. She even said that she is in a position financially and also making money from the videos to be able to do other things and she is doing it. She has her book (Tiny Pantry) selling on squarespace for 15 dollars. I’ve been trying to find out how any people actually bought her pdf file of the cook book.

    She has 628,000 YouTube subscribers. Lets say 10% of her subscribers decided to buy her book at 15 dollars a pdf download. That makes it 62,800 subscribers then times it by 15 and you have 942,000 dollars. that she makes off of 10% of her subscribers. Essentially a million dollars, some would say that is impossible, but it truly isn’t. Hell I’m thinking about buying her book because I loved some of the items she cooked. It’s only 15 dollars and you have to look that this is subscribers from around the world and individuals. it’s not like she is asking for 1500 dollars and even then I did marketing and you could still make that money if you market it right. I think she made at least this and much much more. That would explain the change in her look aka what she is wearing (she upped her clothing including that red snow gear outfit she started to wear) to (in the video) her boyfriend showing off the wine they had hidden while packing (wine bottle).

    Hell as I said previously in one of her videos she showed the food crops still in the field that looked like it wasn’t touched/picked and also everything looked neglected. When she says she is in a position to be able to leave and do other things, she is talking about good money and continued good money.

    https://www.isabelpaige.com/

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    1. In reply to BuckQJohnson,

      I try to not ever watch Isabel Paige videos, because I can’t stand them. I didn’t just take your word for it, I tried to watch the YouTube link that you provided, it was irritating to watch, but at about the 9:00 minute mark of the linked video, Isabel began saying that she was moving away from the “farm”, she was going to begin traveling and filming as her avocation. To me, this seemed like Isabel backpedaling, turning her back on, and denying that she was supposed to be all about “off-grid, sustainable-living, tiny-home, organic farming”. In fact, it’s like a 180 degree turn to go from off-grid/sustainable-living/tiny-home/farming to, Naaa I’m gonna go fly all over the world to exotic places, stay in resorts and hotels, it doesn’t matter how much it costs because I have money now.

      It would almost be the identical thing, if one of the YouTube gurus on frugality, frugal living, saving money, ways to save money, gained enough followers & subscribers, then did a complete 180, saying ,”See-Ya! I don’t have to live like a poor person anymore!” Subscribers are like, “Wait a minute, we thought that you believed in this!?”

      If Isabel were interested in farming, with the money she has made and is earning, she could have built a large greenhouse in order to continue growing fruits & vegetables through the winter. She could have bought a good quality tractor with tilling & plowing attachments. She could have hired some helpers to expand the growing area and install a much better and more effective irrigation system. But because she didn’t use her money to improve her “farm”, and instead is choosing to travel, I think that Isabel was not very interested in off-grid, sustainable-living, tiny-home, organic farming like she said she was.

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      1. Sorry about that, I only ended up here because YT just compels me to watch Isabel Paige videos, no idea why the stupid algorithm is after me like that.
        I absolutely have to agree with you though, it’s completely idiotic to assume that without wealthy parents, friends, or business, you would be able to build an existence like Isabel Paige claims to do.
        It’s also moronic to teach young people in this way that there is anything in this world without effort and personal contribution. We have in Europe the beautiful saying “From nothing, comes nothing”, and this corresponds to the facts. The woman is one of the usual YT retorts, which delivers her target audience what to watch and unfortunately thereby other and still undecided young people in their age pregaukelt that this lifestyle would also be something desirable and feasible for them. But that’s a lie, it just happens to fit Isabel because mom and dad can pamper her, everyone else misses their chances in life if they take that at face value.
        I’m sorry that I have to say this so nastily, but to be able to be a hippie or a dropout, you really have to be able to afford it, which is only possible with a lot of your own money, that of your parents, or being financially supported by others.

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      2. In reply to SAW,

        I couldn’t stand the mental torment, I had to write a response blog post article after finding out today that Isabel Paige and her boyfriend Logan are leaving the tiny-house, art studio, and farm, never to return. My blog post is titled, “Isabel Paige Is Leaving Her Tiny-House, The Truth I Want You To See”. It was pointed out to me, that this is probably because Isabel Paige has made so much money from her cookbook sales and YouTube subscribers, that she has plenty of money to travel.

        If I was her father, I would be so f****ing mad, I would be ready to strangle her. All of that work to build a tiny-house on a trailer frame, run underground electric to it, then build a so-called art studio, then have her run off and abandon it. On the other hand, when I saw Isabel’s father Steve helping her build her tiny-house, he looked like he was about ready to stroke-out, no kidding. It turns out that he DOES have a heart problem, he just had to have open-heart surgery. I wonder if his wife Karen said, “Listen you two, you have enough money now, why don’t you go travel. I can’t have your father trying to help you with your building projects anymore, or running around here screaming, bathing naked, and videoing, he needs peace and quiet now.”

        When I read the comments to Isabel’s departure video, all of the women were being very congratulatory, none of them were WTF!, What are you talking about?, We thought that you were serious about what you were doing, Was this all a joke?

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  49. I didn’t watch her recent video and too was not surprised by learning of her departure. I guess this still could be a way of attracting more views but she was ultimately a free spirited person who loved travelling more than being stuck in one place regardless of what she stood for on her YouTube channel.
    She now has reached a point in which she doesn’t give a f**k and having her YouTube channel gives her the freedom and passive income (among cookbook and mugs) to pursue her ‘free lifestyle’.
    On the other hand, is her move on a deeper personal reasons eg, safety or being exposed by ‘name withheld’ and Jasmine Cherry?

    She will be back to her Tiny House but for now she’s enjoying this new episode of her life laughing her way knowing she’s duped the masses who follow and watch her channel.

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    1. In reply to Neowithheld,

      In a recent comment that I made responding to “SAW”, I wrote that if I were Isabel’s father Steve, I would be so angry at Isabel for the amount of time, energy, effort, and money I put into planning, buying, loading supplies & material, building the tiny-house, getting electric to it, working on the garden plot, building the “art studio”, that I would be wanting to strangle Isabel, for wanting to take off now. What was this, like erecting a child’s swing-set and slide from Sears? At least kids don’t outgrow a swing-set and slide for three or four years.

      In my opinion, this illustrates that women seek to destroy things, disrupt things, ruin things, and cause chaos, whereas men try to build things and create order. I think that Isabel’s father Steve helped and participated in building Isabel’s tiny-house, garden plot, and art studio because he thought that this was building her a place to live, a way to provide food, a way to have an avocation, to create a life, whereas there was about a 100% certainty that Isabel was going to junk it and walk away. I would be furious at Isabel. But the women commenters offer congratulations to Isabel, like she accomplished something, but I just picture an overgrown garden; mice, rats, ants, the weather destroying the tiny-house and the art studio, but this is an accomplishment to women to destroy and ruin something.

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  50. One, I knew her parents where up to something because in 2 of her earlier videos (real early) you see her and her mother around potted Marijuana plants at the 2.5 million dollar home they had. When I heard they where going to use the property (in the mountains) for their Marijuana business It came together. But that has been almost 2 to 3 years ago and the parents even the children haven’t pursued the business. I think the parents health where deteriorating and seeing them putting alot of energy into that property when Isabell is there and they have been helping her they changed their mind. I bet anything the parents use parts of their house to grow and they sell it.

    Two, she hit a lick so to speak. She was able to get parlay her youtube into this cook book thing and while showing a little skin on youtube and trying to show it’s poor me against the world she got a massive following. And she was able to make major bank very quickly. I think Isabel and others in her family may be in shock to how quickly she came into this money and still making money. Now she and her boyfriend knows that they don’t need to be in those mountains living like tramps to be honest with you. They can now travel and duplicate their success with the cook book with another scheme from them travelling. Trust me I they won’t she themselves in 5 star hotels. I would be shocked if they do, they will show themselves going around building a picture book of her and Logan in exotic places and telling a story about them finding a place to build their “new farm”. And they will sell it also.

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    1. In reply to BuckQJohnson,

      There is some apparently updated information on the internet, that Isabel’s father Steve’s legal marijuana growing operation is in business, with a description of the quality and characteristics of their crop. I am mentioning this because there is the possibility that Isabel’s popularity and daily video recording may have been incompatible with the legal marijuana growing operation. Note, you don’t see Isabel’s sister or brother that often, possibly because they are busy working at a different family owned business that can not be video recorded.

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      1. Do you have a link to any information if they are in the valley. Because I came across (will post link) of their company and pics of them growing alot of weed at their 1st home on part of their property and it seems like they are truly digging in there. Check the pics out they have her brother and dad in them for one. Also after seeing how much they where growing now that one video makes sense where Isabel and her mom and sister with glasses where getting her “starts” set up to start to grow so they can be planted in her farm. I think this is BS, yes they where saying this and that but one I didn’t see any seeds put into the grows for one. Many times that may mean nothing but I noticed something that coincided with the her dad and moms pot business. I’ll post that link but when you get there click the pic of the dog surrounded by pot plants. You will see one of the pots have the same blue tape that is being put in the small plastic grow pots. When I post the video go to 17:36 and watch the whole section and you will see. I think she was helping her family to get more grows ready for the pot business and saying it was something else.

        https://herbanplanet.com/marijuana-grow-facilities/golden-gardens-co.html

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      2. In reply to BuckQJohnson,

        I looked at both of the links that you provided. The first link, that shows full-grown marijuana plants in plastic pots, that appears to be the yard area behind their house in Seattle. Prior to looking at this link you provided, I did not know that they had such extensive growing operations at their house in Seattle. I guess if they have a permit/license from Washington State, it is mostly legal as far as local government is concerned.

        I am going to email you the link to the information that I have, because I don’t want to give the family’s last name publicly on my blog post or comments. It would not be illegal to publish the family name, or the family’s address, but I have learned from previous experience that some readers/viewers take things too far, driving right up to the person’s house, knocking on their front door, introducing themselves, and asking them out for lunch. Some YouTubers can’t handle this, exclaiming that their privacy was violated, even though they made videos of every aspect of their personal life for the past several years. They can’t grasp that videoing and showing their personal life on YouTube to gain followers, they have obliterated their own privacy.

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